How Can We Prove the Modified Bernoulli Inequality?

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The discussion revolves around proving a modified version of the Bernoulli inequality, specifically showing that if \( a \geq -1 \) and \( n \in \mathbb{N} \), then \( 1+\frac{1}{n}a \geq (1+a)^{\frac{1}{n}} \). Participants explore potential approaches, including the use of induction and substitutions related to the original Bernoulli inequality.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant demonstrates the original Bernoulli inequality using induction and seeks to extend this to a modified form.
  • Another participant suggests substituting \( a=\frac{1}{n} \tilde{a} \) into the Bernoulli inequality to approach the modified inequality.
  • A subsequent reply confirms that this substitution leads to a stronger inequality, but questions whether it holds under the desired conditions.
  • Participants discuss the implications of the stronger inequality, noting that if it holds for \( \tilde{a} \geq -n \), it should also hold for \( \tilde{a} \geq -1 \).

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the approach of using substitutions and acknowledge the relationship between the original and modified inequalities. However, there is some uncertainty regarding the conditions under which the modified inequality holds.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve whether the modified inequality can be proven directly from the original Bernoulli inequality, nor does it clarify the implications of the conditions on \( \tilde{a} \).

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Hello! (Wave)

Using induction, I have showed the Bernoulli inequality, i.e. that if $a \geq -1$ and $n \in \mathbb{N}$ then $1+na \leq (1+a)^n$. Now I want to show that if $a \geq -1$ and $n \in \mathbb{N}$ the $1+\frac{1}{n}a \geq (1+a)^{\frac{1}{n}}$. How could we show this? Could we use somehow the Bernoulli inequality? (Thinking)
 
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Hey evinda! (Smile)

Suppose we substitute $a=\frac 1n \tilde a$ in Bernoulli's inequality. Would that bring us closer to what we want to prove? (Wondering)
 
I like Serena said:
Hey evinda! (Smile)

Suppose we substitute $a=\frac 1n \tilde a$ in Bernoulli's inequality. Would that bring us closer to what we want to prove? (Wondering)

Then we get that $1+ \tilde a \leq \left( 1+ \frac{1}{n} \tilde a\right)^n \Rightarrow 1+\frac{1}{n} \tilde a \geq (1+ \tilde a)^{\frac{1}{n}}$, right?

But this holds for $\tilde a \geq -n$. We want that it holds for $\tilde a \geq -1$. (Worried) What could we do? (Thinking)
 
Doesn't the first imply the second?
We actually found a 'stronger' inequality than we need. (Thinking)
 
I like Serena said:
Doesn't first imply the second?
We actually found a 'stronger' inequality than we need. (Thinking)

Ah because if the inequality holds for values greater than $-n$, we directly have that it holds for values greater than $-1$, right? (Blush)
 
Yep. (Nod)
 
I like Serena said:
Yep. ( Nod)

I see... Thanks a lot! (Smirk)
 

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