How Can You Eliminate Constants in a Differential Equation?

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The discussion revolves around eliminating constants from a differential equation involving the functions y, y', and y''. The original poster presents the equations and expresses uncertainty about how to proceed with the elimination of constants c1 and c2.

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  • Participants explore different methods to eliminate constants, questioning the effectiveness of subtracting various combinations of the equations. There is a focus on manipulating the equations to isolate c2.

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Some participants have offered guidance on how to approach the problem, suggesting specific substitutions and manipulations. There is an acknowledgment of progress made by the original poster in deriving an expression for c2, although there remains some confusion regarding the correct form of the expression.

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Participants are working within the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information they can use or the methods they can apply. There is an ongoing discussion about the accuracy of derived expressions and the implications of different forms of the equations.

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Homework Statement



eliminating c1 and c2 from y, y' and y'' to create a differential equation

Homework Equations



I have the equation y = (c1 +c2x)e^x
y' = c2e^x +(c1+c2x)e^x
y'' = c2e^x + c2e^x + (c1+c2x)e^x)

(from product rule)

The Attempt at a Solution



I'm just not sure how to eliminate the constants. If I try to do y'' - y i still have constants left.
 
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th3chemist said:

Homework Statement



eliminating c1 and c2 from y, y' and y'' to create a differential equation

Homework Equations



I have the equation y = (c1 +c2x)e^x
y' = c2e^x +(c1+c2x)e^x
y'' = c2e^x + c2e^x + (c1+c2x)e^x)

(from product rule)

The Attempt at a Solution



I'm just not sure how to eliminate the constants. If I try to do y'' - y i still have constants left.
What do you get if you plug y = (c1 +c2x)ex for the second term in y' ?

Solve that for c2.
 
with y"-y you are only using part of you available information.
What happens if you subtract y-y' = ... ?
or y'-y" ?
 
SammyS said:
What do you get if you plug y = (c1 +c2x)ex for the second term in y' ?

Solve that for c2.

thank you! I can't believe I didn't see that.

I got c2 = (y' - y)/ e^x. I can then sub this into y'' to get the differential.

Thank you :)
 
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th3chemist said:
thank you! I can't believe I didn't see that.

I got c2 = (y' - y) e^x. I can then sub this into y'' to get the differential.

Thank you :)

Isn't it c2 = (y' - y) e^-x ?
 
lendav_rott said:
Isn't it c2 = (y' - y) e^-x ?

yes yes, for some reason it didn't put the / button
 

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