How Can You Increase Air Pressure in Pipes?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around methods to increase air pressure inside a pipe that opens to the atmosphere at both ends. Participants explore theoretical and practical approaches to achieving higher pressure, considering factors such as flow rate and pipe geometry.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the feasibility of raising static pressure in a pipe that communicates with the atmosphere, suggesting that total pressure can be increased by injecting air at higher velocities.
  • Another participant proposes that increasing the flow rate can create a shock wave at the pipe's exit, potentially raising the pressure inside the pipe further.
  • A different viewpoint suggests that static pressure can indeed rise when air is blown through the pipe, depending on the smoothness of the pipe's walls, and emphasizes the significance of even small pressure increases in certain contexts.
  • Participants discuss the implications of flow rate on pressure gradients within the pipe, indicating that the pressure at the outlet can exceed atmospheric pressure under specific conditions.
  • Clarification is sought regarding the dimensions of the pipe and the desired pressure increase, with one participant noting the rectangular cross-section of the pipe.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on whether static pressure can be raised in the described scenario, as some participants assert it cannot while others argue that it can under certain conditions. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specifics of pressure increase methods.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying assumptions about the effects of flow rate and pipe geometry on pressure, and there are unresolved questions about the exact pressure levels being sought and the implications of different flow conditions.

Ruffian
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Im not exactly sure if this is the right section of the forums, but here is my question; is there any way to raise the air pressure inside a pipe for example, the only thing is, both ends lead into larger sections that open to the atmosphere.

Air will be (for example) blown into the pipe from one end, is there anyway to raise the pressure of the air inside the pipe?
 
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As long as your pipe is communicated to atmosphere that too with larger section, static pressure can not be raised. But total pressure (Static head + Velocity pressure Head) can be raised by injecting air with higher velocities.
 
If you increase flow rate through a pipe high enough, you'll create a shock wave at the exit. Increasing the flow through the pipe further will continue to increase pressure inside the pipe.

If on the other hand, you're simply trying to pressurize the pipe (for example, to verify leak tightness as required by ASME piping code) the most common thing to do is to temporarily plug the end.
 
P.Ramesh said:
As long as your pipe is communicated to atmosphere that too with larger section, static pressure can not be raised. But total pressure (Static head + Velocity pressure Head) can be raised by injecting air with higher velocities.
Unless there is a wording issue there, you aren't correct. Static pressure does rise when you blow air through a pipe unless the walls of the pipe are perfectly smooth. At 1, 2, or 4 inches of water gage, it may not seem like a lot, but in a large duct or in a tight room, the forces can be enormous.

How much pressure are you looking for and how big is the section of pipe, Ruffian?
 
Thanx for the replies, so in order to raise the pressure inside the pipe, the 'faster' i can make the air flow through the pipe, the higher the pressure will be at the other end?

As for the amount of pressure, there is no number in particular, just heigher that what it would usuall be.
The pipe itself is not a cylinder, but has a rectangular cross-section, of say about, 10cm X 7cm
 
so in order to raise the pressure inside the pipe, the 'faster' i can make the air flow through the pipe, the higher the pressure will be at the other end?
Yes, there will be a pressure gradient in the pipe with the lowest pressure being at the opening and highest at the source. The pressure at the outlet can be well above atmospheric. Note this situation comes up quite often in vent headers, especially relief valve vent headers. I've seen vent headers with over 100 psi at the outlet.
 

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