How Can You Solve a Linear Kinematics Problem Involving Two Accelerating Cars?

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The problem involves two cars accelerating towards an intersection from different starting points and times. Car A accelerates uniformly from rest, while Car B starts later and from a different position. The objective is to determine the time at which both cars are equidistant from the intersection, the distance from the intersection at that time, and the average velocity of Car A.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss various methods for solving the problem, including the use of tables to track distance and velocity over time. Some question the necessity of this approach and suggest starting with equations that relate distance, acceleration, and time directly.

Discussion Status

There are differing methods being explored, with one participant expressing uncertainty about the complexity of their approach and another providing an alternative method that yielded a different result. No consensus has been reached, but there is productive dialogue regarding the equations involved and the setup of the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that Car B starts 20 meters further away and 5 seconds later than Car A, which may influence the calculations and assumptions made in their approaches.

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Homework Statement



Two cars are at the start lines of two roads at right angles to each other and pointing to the intersection 500 metres away. Car A starts from rest with uniform accelereation of 0.5m/s2 and accelerates for 20 seconds. It then continues at the speed reached. Car B starts 5 seconds later and 20 metres further away with an acceleration of 0.7m/s2.
Calculate wrt the start time of Car A:

a) Time taken for B and A to be the same distance from the cross-road.

b) The distance from the cross roads at the above time

c) The average velocity of Car A at this distance.

Homework Equations



v=u+at
v2=u2+2as

The Attempt at a Solution



First i used v=u+at and plugged the results into a table showing velocity against time for car A and B, for upto 60 seconds at ten second intervals.
Then i transposed the second equation for s to work out the distance s=v2-u2[tex]/2a[/tex] for car a and s=(v2-u2[tex]/2a[/tex])-20 for car B.
This was then plugged into a second table showing distance against time.
From this table it was deduced that the area of interest was between 50 and 60 seconds.
I carried on with this process until i narrowed it down.
The answer i got for a) was 57.67 seconds.
b) was just working the time back through the previous equations which gave 23.3m (500-476.7).
c) i calculated change in distance over change in time: 476.7/57.67 = 8.267m/s2

However, this was time consuming and i am wondering if there was a simpler way to tackle this(if indeed the above solution is correct!), possibly as a simultaneous equation?

Any help is greatly appreciated.
 
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Rest assured that you don't need to use tables for any physics problem. When the two cars are at the same distance from the cross-road, two things are the same for both cars: distance traveled and time taken. Which equation relates distance, acceleration, and time? Start there.
 
Your method looks pretty good. I did it a different way and got a different answer! Kind of complicated and easy to make a little mistake, which I have a habit of doing.
For car A I did the first 20 seconds as v = at = .5*20 = 10
d = .5*a*t^2 = 100 m
Then for times larger than 20 we have d = 100 + vt = 100+10(t-20)

For car B, d = do + vi*t + .5*a*t^2
d = -20 +.5*.7*(t-5)^2

for (a) I set the two distance equations equal, collected like terms and got this quadratic: .35*t^2 - 13.5*t + 88.75 = 0
It has two solutions, one less than 20 so no good, and t = 30.17 s
I checked the distances at that time and they are equal (if my equations are correct!).
 
ideasrule said:
Rest assured that you don't need to use tables for any physics problem. When the two cars are at the same distance from the cross-road, two things are the same for both cars: distance traveled and time taken. Which equation relates distance, acceleration, and time? Start there.

Car B starts 20 m further away. That's why i went the table route.
 

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