Calculating Acceleration for a Car Stopping on a Dime: Kinematics Question Help

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The discussion revolves around a kinematics problem involving a car that is claimed to stop within a distance of 17.9mm while traveling at an initial speed of 13.4m/s. Participants are exploring how to calculate the required acceleration for the car to come to a stop in this short distance.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the conversion of distance from millimeters to meters and question the accuracy of this conversion. There is an exploration of relevant kinematic equations, with some participants attempting to solve for acceleration using the equation Vf^2 = Vi^2 + 2aΔd. Others express uncertainty about the relevance of calculating time in this context.

Discussion Status

Several participants have provided insights into the calculations and reasoning behind their attempts. There is an acknowledgment of the need to identify the correct answer from multiple choices, with some guidance offered on eliminating options based on the nature of acceleration. The discussion remains open, with no explicit consensus reached on the final answer.

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Participants are working within the constraints of a multiple-choice format, which influences their approach to identifying the correct answer. There is also a reminder about the forum's rules regarding posting full solutions, emphasizing the focus on understanding rather than simply providing answers.

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Homework Statement


A commercial claims that a car can stop on a dime (17.9mm). If a car is initially traveling at 13.4m/s, what acceleration would the car experience coming to a stop in that short distance?

Homework Equations


avg acceleration
Coversion

The Attempt at a Solution


I recognize that the acceleration may be negative since the car is coming to a stop. So i kept that in mind as I tried solving.

I first converted 17.9mm to m and got 0.179m.

I then tried to draw it out and label values.
  • Initial velocity: 13.4m/s
  • Acceleration: ?
  • Displacement: 0.179m
  • I'm assuming that the final velocity is 0m/s since its coming to a stop.
I then tried to solve for the time. But would that be irrelevant in this question?

The question is also multiple choice.
A) -5m/s^2
B) 250m/s^2
C) 10m/s^2
D) -5000m/s^2
E) 240m/s^2

So I'm thinking that the answer maybe either be A or D. I'm just not sure what steps to take next to get to either conclusion.
 
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DracoMalfoy said:
17.9mm to m and got 0.179m.
You're sure?
 
DracoMalfoy said:

Homework Statement


A commercial claims that a car can stop on a dime (17.9mm). If a car is initially traveling at 13.4m/s, what acceleration would the car experience coming to a stop in that short distance?

Homework Equations


avg acceleration
Coversion

The Attempt at a Solution


I recognize that the acceleration may be negative since the car is coming to a stop. So i kept that in mind as I tried solving.

I first converted 17.9mm to m and got 0.179m.

I then tried to draw it out and label values.
  • Initial velocity: 13.4m/s
  • Acceleration: ?
  • Displacement: 0.179m
  • I'm assuming that the final velocity is 0m/s since its coming to a stop.
I then tried to solve for the time. But would that be irrelevant in this question?

The question is also multiple choice.
A) -5m/s^2
B) 250m/s^2
C) 10m/s^2
D) -5000m/s^2
E) 240m/s^2

So I'm thinking that the answer maybe either be A or D. I'm just not sure what steps to take next to get to either conclusion.
Solve what for time? Can you post what you did? Also, some relevant equations will help.
 
Bystander said:
You're sure?

Damn. Right. its 0.0179m x.x
 
kuruman said:
Solve what for time? Can you post what you did? Also, some relevant equations will help.

I look to 4 kinematic equations including one for average velocity and one for average acceleration (Vf: Final Velocity, Vi: Initial Velocity, a=Acceleration, t= Time, Δd=Displacemet); Δx: Change in position, Δt: Change in time
  • Vf=Vi+ a⋅t
  • Δd=Vi(t)+1/2a⋅t
  • Vf^2=Vi^2+2a⋅Δd
  • Δd=1/2(Vf+Vi)t
Average Velocity= Δx/Δt
Average Acceleration= Δv/Δt

I basically just label values and try to see which equation is best to solve. in this instance i used:

Vf^2=Vi^2+2a⋅Δd

Since i had displacement, initial velocity, and final velocity. I solved for a. My answer was -5015m/s^2
 
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The initial velocity is given: its magnitude is 13.4m/s.
The final velocity has a magnitude of 0m/s since the car is no longer moving.
The displacement is given: its magnitude is 17.9mm (or 0.0179m).
Therefore, to find the acceleration, the following equation can be used:
Vf2 - Vi2 = 2ad
(0)2 - (13.4)2 = 2a(0.0179)
0 - 179.56 = 0.0358a
-179.56 = 0.0358a
a = - 5015.64 m/s2
The answer is closest to D, which must be the correct answer.
 
Weam Abou Hamdan said:
The initial velocity is given: its magnitude is 13.4m/s.
The final velocity has a magnitude of 0m/s since the car is no longer moving.
The displacement is given: its magnitude is 17.9mm (or 0.0179m).
Therefore, to find the acceleration, the following equation can be used:
Vf2 - Vi2 = 2ad
(0)2 - (13.4)2 = 2a(0.0179)
0 - 179.56 = 0.0358a
-179.56 = 0.0358a
a = - 5015.64 m/s2
The answer is closest to D, which must be the correct answer.
Posting full solutions is against the forum's rules (Short Summary → Point 3).
Instead, guide the seeker on the right track by allowing them to explore all aspects of a particular problem.
No offence to you, but the purpose of PF is to help the seeker understand the different sciences; and not to serve as a platform for showing off how bright the responder is.
 
DracoMalfoy said:

Homework Statement


A commercial claims that a car can stop on a dime (17.9mm). If a car is initially traveling at 13.4m/s, what acceleration would the car experience coming to a stop in that short distance?

Homework Equations


avg acceleration
Coversion

The Attempt at a Solution


I recognize that the acceleration may be negative since the car is coming to a stop. So i kept that in mind as I tried solving.

I first converted 17.9mm to m and got 0.179m.

I then tried to draw it out and label values.
  • Initial velocity: 13.4m/s
  • Acceleration: ?
  • Displacement: 0.179m
  • I'm assuming that the final velocity is 0m/s since its coming to a stop.
I then tried to solve for the time. But would that be irrelevant in this question?

The question is also multiple choice.
A) -5m/s^2
B) 250m/s^2
C) 10m/s^2
D) -5000m/s^2
E) 240m/s^2

So I'm thinking that the answer maybe either be A or D. I'm just not sure what steps to take next to get to either conclusion.

Note: When you have a multiple choice question, you are not really finding THE answer, you are identifying which of the offerings IS the answer.
I like that you knew acceleration would be negative, and thus eliminated 3 of the options.
If the answer was -5, then it would take between 2 and 3 seconds to stop from a speed of 13.4 m/s.
Given the average speed during the "slow down" is 6.7 m/s [(13.4 + 0)/2], in 2 seconds the car would travel 13.4 m, so in this case more than 13m.
This -5 can be excluded leaving just one option.

If you use the equations correctly, it will identify the answer correctly - just take longer. Use you time on the more difficult questions.
 
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