How Can You Solve Reaction Forces in Bearings Using Basic Calculations?

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves determining the reaction forces at bearings, which are typically perpendicular to the shaft. The original poster has reproduced the necessary equations but is struggling to solve for the unknowns using substitutions and has not achieved consistent results with an online calculator.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of Gaussian elimination as a method for solving the system of equations. There are inquiries about the details of the calculations and the setup of the equations, with some participants questioning the accuracy of the original poster's matrix.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on checking calculations and suggesting methods. There is a focus on identifying mistakes in the setup of the equations, particularly regarding the inclusion of variables in the matrix.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of being able to solve these types of problems under exam conditions with limited tools, which raises questions about the best methods for approaching such systems of equations.

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Homework Statement


The problem asks to find the reaction forces for each of the bearings. For such bearings, the reaction forces can be looked up in a textbook, but they just act perpendicular to the shaft.

Homework Equations


Sum of the forces and moments = 0.

The Attempt at a Solution


I understand and have myself reproduced the 6 equations. My problem is now solving for the 6 unknowns. My usual approach in the past has been to just do some simple substitutions. It's not working for me here, and I can't even reproduce the same answer using an online systems of equations calculator. Any help is greatly appreciated.

Here is the problem and the solution: https://imgur.com/a/LrFb8
 
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DrClaude said:
You can do it using Gaussian elimination.

Tried it using Gaussian eliminator calculator. Didn’t get the same answer.
 
Show some details. What did you put in and what came out ?
 
domabo said:
Tried it using Gaussian eliminator calculator. Didn’t get the same answer.
They did mess up the signs, but the magnitudes are correct.
 
DrClaude said:
They did mess up the signs, but the magnitudes are correct.
https://imgur.com/a/6LcBv

Do you mind pointing out the mistake here? As you can see, I'm not getting the same answer as the solution has given.
I should add that I've listed the variables in the alphabetical order they appear. That is, Ax = x1, Az = x2, By=x3, Bz=x4, Cx=x5, and Cy=x6.
 
BvU said:
Show some details. What did you put in and what came out ?

Please see my reply to Dr Claude
 
domabo said:
Do you mind pointing out the mistake here?
Can you show the starting matrix?
 
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DrClaude said:
You forgot the Bz in row 2.
Wow... thanks. Would you say that this is the best way to solve this system of equations? Eventually, I'll be of course asked to do these types of problems in an exam setting where I'll only be able to use a simple scientific calculator.
 
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domabo said:
Would you say that this is the best way to solve this system of equations? Eventually, I'll be of course asked to do these types of problems in an exam setting where I'll only be able to use a simple scientific calculator.
Yes, try it yourself. You should be able to solve such a system in a few minutes.
 

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