How Close Will an Alpha Particle Get to a Gold Nucleus?

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The problem involves an alpha particle approaching a gold nucleus, specifically examining how close the alpha particle can get before being repelled due to electrostatic forces. The context is rooted in electrostatics and energy conservation principles.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to apply kinetic and potential energy concepts but expresses uncertainty about calculating the force and distance. Some participants suggest using Coulomb's law and consider the energy dynamics as the particles approach each other.

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Participants are exploring various interpretations of the problem, particularly the relationship between kinetic energy and electric potential energy. Guidance has been offered regarding the use of Coulomb's law and the energy considerations involved in the interaction.

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The original poster notes a lack of sufficient information in the problem statement and questions the assumptions regarding the initial conditions and the nature of the forces involved.

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[SOLVED] Electrostatics Problem

I've been trying to solve this problem for the longest time, but it doesn't seem to give enough information.

Homework Statement


If an alpha particle is fired straight at a nucleus of a gold atom, (q = 79 e) at a velocity of 3.3 x 10^4 m/s, how close will it get to the gold nucleus?

mass of alpha particle = 6.64 x 10^27 kg
e = 1.6 x 10^-19 C
(I looked this up on the internet, it's not given in the question, but: charge on alpha particle = +2e)

Homework Equations



I have v1 and v2 (I'm assuming it's zero), but that's pretty much it. I can't calculate the force between these charges because I don't know their distance.

I also tried: W = Delta Ek
W = (0.5)(m)(v)^2
W = (0.5)(6.64x10^-27)(3.3x10^4)^2
W = 3.62x10^-18 J
F * d = 3.62x10^-18

But, as I said, I can't calculate the force, and the "d" in that formula gives me the distance it traveled, not how close it got to the nucleus.

The Attempt at a Solution



I'd really like to post an attempt, to show that I truly tried this problem, but I'm really stumped. I have thought of using the electrostatic force equation, but that didn't work out. I'm really not sure where to start.

Could someone please tell me the general direction I should go? I don't need an actual answer, I just want some guidance. Thanks.
 
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You should look up the charge of a gold nucleus, then go back to Coulomb's law--specifically, the energy between two charged particles. Think about how the energy changes as you bring the two particles towards each other from infinity.
 
Well I know the charge on the gold nucleus is 79e. (1.264 x 10^-14 C)

The alpha particle is repelled by the nucleus, so the electric potential energy increases as it is brought towards the nucleus.

E = k q1 q2 / r
E = 3.65 x 10^-26 / r

For the force,

F = 3.65 x 10^-26 / r^2.

But I still don't see how this can get an answer.
 
Is it because all of the kinetic energy is converted into electric potential energy? If that is the case, I guess I could isolate for r. =P
 
DMac said:
Is it because all of the kinetic energy is converted into electric potential energy?

Yes.
 
Thanks!
 

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