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I've been programming for fun as a hobby for years, but with math, I have to put in so much effort and I get exhausted so easily. Why is that?

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I've been programming for fun as a hobby for years, but with math, I have to put in so much effort and I get exhausted so easily. Why is that?

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That's because you don't see the beauty. Captain Butler was an able pilot. Taught others to fight. Then one day he got in a plane, dropped his bombs and smashed his plane into the side of a mountain. They couldn't figure out why. One possibility is he ran into a critical point up there, the straw that breaks the camel's back, a catastrophe, a sudden, abrupt, qualitative change in his world and simply snapped. There lies the secret to many of the puzzling phenomena in life. When you understand this secret, a marvelous, beautiful sense of Nature emerges. And there is no other way to see it than mathematics.but with math, I have to put in so much effort and I get exhausted so easily. Why is that?

Seek to find and understand that beauty and your effort will become less laborious.

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I don't understand what this has to do with recreational mathematics.Captain Butler was an able pilot. Taught others to fight. Then one day he got in a plane, dropped his bombs and smashed his plane into the side of a mountain. They couldn't figure out why. One possibility is he ran into a critical point up there, the straw that breaks the camel's back, a catastrophe, a sudden, abrupt, qualitative change in his world and simply snapped. There lies the secret to many of the puzzling phenomena in life.

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dlgoff

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Maybe you just need to find a connection between the two. e.g. Computational scienceI've been programming for fun as a hobby for years, but with math, I have to put in so much effort and I get exhausted so easily. Why is that?

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If you want to like math, try talking to some of your friends who really like math. They'll show you where the fun stuff is hiding :)

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UltrafastPED

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Or perhaps graph theory, though it is a bit abstract for starters.

I started with the boolean logic and number theory before I learned to program.

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There are a lot of books in maths, and a lot of pages to read and exercise (depending on your maturity).

For me computer programming basically I just need to know the syntax, the rest is plain logic.

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It's not just algebra, of course. You'll also get trig, calculus, etc.

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+1 for that site!

Turion, you also might want to look into combinatorics, which has many applications in computer science.

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