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The discussion revolves around a differential equations problem involving boundary conditions and the separation of variables method. Participants are examining the implications of certain constants in the solution of a homogeneous partial differential equation (PDE).

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the role of constants in the solution, particularly questioning why certain terms are retained or eliminated based on boundary conditions. There is exploration of how constants can be absorbed into other terms and the implications of this on the overall solution.

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Some participants have provided clarifications regarding the treatment of constants in the context of boundary conditions. There is an ongoing exploration of how these constants affect the solution and the conditions under which they can be considered zero.

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Participants are working under the constraints of boundary conditions that dictate the behavior of the solution as certain variables approach limits, which influences the retention or elimination of terms in the solution.

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Homework Statement


X(x)=(Ae^kx+Be^-kx)
Y(y)=(Csin(ky)+D(cos(ky))
V(x,y)=(Ae^kx+Be^-kx)(Csin(ky)+D(cos(ky))

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separation of variables

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so our boundary condition says that as x->infinity , V=0
this is only possible if A=0

so A=0 and Be^-kx= 0
so X= Be^-kx
and
V(x,y)=(e^-kx)(Csin(ky)+D(cos(ky))

why is there an e^-kx on the front. Shouldn't there also be a B?
 
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B can be "absorbed" by the arbitrary constants C and D.
 
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TSny said:
B can be "absorbed" by the arbitrary constants C and D.
ah! you're right. distribute the B into the the parenthesis. I knew it was something so simple otherwise he wouldn't have glossed over it. lol.
Thanks!

just one last question. so B^e^-kx we keep because the constant is not equal to zero?
because the next part we solve for Y, and D ends up being 0 but we keep Csin(ky) which equals 0 because sin(0)=0. so we keep that one but eliminate the part where D=0.

so we keep the part where the constant is not equal to zero?
 
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just one last question. so B^e^-kx we keep because the constant is not equal to zero?
because the next part we solve for Y, and D ends up being 0 but we keep Csin(ky) which equals 0 because sin(0)=0. so we keep that one but eliminate the part where D=0.

so we keep the part where the constant is not equal to zero?
Yes. If a boundary condition forces a constant factor of a term to be zero, then you drop that term. Otherwise, keep the term.
 
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Apparently you are solving a homogeneous PDE with boundary conditions. The identically zero function is always a solution, but you want non-trivial solutions. So you hope not to have to take all the constants be zero. So you probably have something like ##Ce^{-kx}\sin(ky)## and you get your last boundary condition to be zero by choosing particular values of ##k## so the sine term can be zero without making ##C=0##. These values of ##k## determine the eigenvalues of the problem and allow nontrivial solutions.
 
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