How Do Convergent Series Identities Work with Constants and Sums?

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The discussion revolves around the convergence of series, specifically focusing on proving identities involving constants and sums of convergent series. The original poster presents two parts of a problem related to the convergence of series and seeks guidance on how to approach the proofs using definitions of limits and sequences.

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  • Participants explore the definition of convergence for infinite series and discuss how to apply it to the given problems. Questions arise about reformulating the problem in terms of partial sums and the implications of multiplying limits by constants.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering guidance on how to structure the proofs and clarifying the definitions involved. There is a collaborative effort to refine the approach to the proofs, with some participants suggesting specific steps to take.

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There is an emphasis on the need to consider the sign of constants when manipulating inequalities related to limits. Participants also note the importance of starting with the correct form of the epsilon-delta definition of limits in their proofs.

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[SOLVED] Convergent Series Identities

Homework Statement


a) If c is a number and [tex]\sum a_{n}[/tex] from n=1 to infinity is convergent to L, show that [tex]\sum ca_{n}[/tex] from n=1 to infinity is convergent to cL, using the precise definition of a sequence.

b)If [tex]\sum a_{n}[/tex] from n=1 to infinity and [tex]\sum b_{n}[/tex] from n=1 to infinity are convergent to X and Y respectively, show that [tex]\sum b_{n}+a_{n}[/tex] from n=1 to infinity is convergent to X+Y.

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I personally thought these were identities, and have no idea how to approach them.


The Attempt at a Solution


a) Maybe [tex]\sum a_{n}[/tex] from n=1 to infinity = [tex]Lim (S_{n})[/tex] as n goes to infinity, has something to do with it
 
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These proofs essentially rely on the definition of convergence for infinite series, i.e. that the mth partial sum converges to some limit L as m goes to infinity
Can you reformulate the question in terms of partial sums?

(Note that you can do what you'd expect to do with sums when they are only finite, but not necessarily when they are infinite)
 
So I need to show that [tex]Lim (c*S_{n}) = c*L[/tex]? Where [tex]S_{n}[/tex] is the nth partial sum?
 
dtl42 said:
So I need to show that [tex]Lim (c*S_{n}) = c*L[/tex]? Where [tex]S_{n}[/tex] is the nth partial sum?

That's right. Do you know how to prove things about limits of sequences?
(The epsilon-delta definition of a limits for sequences, or any other definition)
 
dtl42 said:
Maybe [tex]\sum a_{n}[/tex] from n=1 to infinity = [tex]Lim (S_{n})[/tex] as n goes to infinity, has something to do with it

HI dtl42! :smile:

Yes, ∑an and lim(Sn) are the same thing.

So start by writing out the definition of the statement "lim(Sn) = L".

Then it should be fairly obvious how to adjust it. :smile:
 
The definition of [tex]Lim(S_{n})[/tex] is [tex]|S_{n}-L|<\epsilon\rightarrow \forall n>N[/tex] right? Can I multiply both sides of [tex]|S_{n}-L|<\epsilon[/tex] by c? But then there are two cases depending on the sign of c right?
 
dtl42 said:
The definition of [tex]Lim(S_{n})[/tex] is [tex]|S_{n}-L|<\epsilon\rightarrow \forall n>N[/tex] right? Can I multiply both sides of [tex]|S_{n}-L|<\epsilon[/tex] by c? But then there are two cases depending on the sign of c right?

Use |ab| = |a| times |b|. :smile:
 
So [tex]|cS_{n}-cL|<\epsilon*|c| \rightarrow \forall n>N[/tex], from this can I say the final statement?
 
dtl42 said:
So [tex]|cS_{n}-cL|<\epsilon*|c| \rightarrow \forall n>N[/tex], from this can I say the final statement?

mmm … not exactly …

you see, you have to start with "given any ε > 0, there exists an N such that …" and end with "< ε", not "< ε|c|"

So you should begin "given any ε > 0, there exists an N such that … |Sn - L| < ε/|c| " :smile:
 
  • #10
Hmm, I can't really think of any way to get to that conclusion? You can't say it just because [tex]|c|>0[/tex]... I'm kinda stuck.
 
  • #11
You can choose ε to be anything (> 0).

You can have one ε for Sn, and a different ε for cSn

In particular, you can choose the first one to be 1/|c| times the second one.
 
  • #12
Ok, so can I say let [tex]\epsilon_{1}=\frac{\epsilon_{2}}{|c|}[/tex] so [tex]|S_{n}-L|<\epsilon_{1}\rightarrow \frac{\epsilon_{2}}{|c|}[/tex], so [tex]|S_{n}-L|<\frac{\epsilon_{2}}{|c|} \rightarrow |cS_{n}-cL|<\epsilon_{2}[/tex]?
 
  • #13
:biggrin: Woohoo! :biggrin:

(and you can just write ε instead of ε2)

… and nice LaTeX, btw! :smile:
 
  • #14
Ok, tiny-tim, thanks for all the help, I am going to mark this as solved
 

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