How Do Hairdryers Adjust Power Settings with Constant Resistance and Voltage?

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The discussion revolves around the operation of hair dryers with two power settings (600 watts and 1200 watts) and how they achieve this with constant resistance and voltage. Participants explore the mechanisms behind power adjustment in hair dryers, considering both theoretical and practical aspects.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that hair dryers have a heating element divided into two parts, where one section is powered in one mode and both sections in another, indicating that resistance is not constant.
  • Others propose that at a higher resistance, the current must be lower, leading to lower power consumption at the 600 watts setting, which raises questions about the relationship between resistance and power.
  • There is a suggestion that hair dryers may use two resistors connected in parallel to achieve different power settings, with calculations provided for power consumption based on resistance configurations.
  • Some participants express uncertainty about the correctness of the proposed mechanisms and challenge the assumptions made about power settings and heat generation.
  • A later reply introduces the possibility of a single heating element with an electronic power controller that may also adjust motor speed, adding complexity to the discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the mechanisms behind the power settings of hair dryers. Multiple competing views and hypotheses are presented, with some participants questioning the assumptions made by others.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the assumptions about the type of voltage supply (DC vs. AC) and the specific configurations of resistors in hair dryers, which remain unresolved in the discussion.

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A hair dryer hooked up to a DC power supply has 2 power settings.

One is 600 watts and the other is 1200 watts.

How is a hairsdryer able to have 2 power settings when resistance is constant and the voltage is constant?

Am I missing a valuable component inside a hairdryer that allows this to happen? What's going on?
 
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The implementations I've seen are that the heating element is split into 2 parts.
In one mode only one section is powered in the other both sections are powered.
So the resistance in this case is not constant.
 
so, with a higher resistance at constant voltage...the current must be lower. If current is lower at higher resistance, the power consumed is lower. so, at 600 watts setting, the hairdryer is connecting to the part that contains more resistance. IS THIS CORRECT?

it's a bit awkward because you would think that the higher resistance would produce a higher power setting.
 
casanova2528 said:
so, with a higher resistance at constant voltage...the current must be lower. If current is lower at higher resistance, the power consumed is lower. so, at 600 watts setting, the hairdryer is connecting to the part that contains more resistance. IS THIS CORRECT?

it's a bit awkward because you would think that the higher resistance would produce a higher power setting.

Or they're two resistors connected in parallel?
 
casanova2528 said:
A hair dryer hooked up to a DC power supply has 2 power settings.

One is 600 watts and the other is 1200 watts.

How is a hairsdryer able to have 2 power settings when resistance is constant and the voltage is constant?

Am I missing a valuable component inside a hairdryer that allows this to happen? What's going on?

What hair dryers are hooked up to a DC voltage source? That looks like a typo to me. Beyond that, the other replies are correct.
 
berkeman said:
What hair dryers are hooked up to a DC voltage source? That looks like a typo to me. Beyond that, the other replies are correct.

this is a hypothetical situation...of course, AC voltage at 60 hz and peak voltage of 170 V is standard in the usa...but just to understand how a hairdryer power setting is setup...DC current is used.
 
i'm not sure if that is correct...

look at your standard hairdryer with 2 power settings. the setting at higher power usually creates more heat for your hair drying purposes. the 600 watt setting should not create more heat, and the 1200 watt setting creates more heat. TRY IT YOURSELF...TURN ON A HAIRDRYER WITH 2 POWER SETTINGS...WHAT'S GOING ON?
 
MATLABdude said:
Or they're two resistors connected in parallel?

casanova2528 said:
i'm not sure if that is correct...

look at your standard hairdryer with 2 power settings. the setting at higher power usually creates more heat for your hair drying purposes. the 600 watt setting should not create more heat, and the 1200 watt setting creates more heat. TRY IT YOURSELF...TURN ON A HAIRDRYER WITH 2 POWER SETTINGS...WHAT'S GOING ON?

Let's assume you have two resistors, both of resistance R (say, 24 ohms). On the low setting, only one of these resistors is connected:
P=\frac{V^{2}}{R}=\frac{120^{2}}{24}=600 W

On the high setting, both of these resistors are connected in parallel, resulting in a total resistance of R/2 (in this example, 12 ohms). Consequently, the power consumed is:
P=\frac{V^{2}}{R}=\frac{120^{2}}{12}=1200 W

It's because they are connected in parallel (and not series) that you can twice the resistance (if you just added up the numbers, ignoring their connectivity) and twice the power.
 
oh...i haven't gotten to parallel and series resistors set ups.

so, if resistors are set up in parallel, you don't add the resistance like you add capacitance...is that right?
 
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casanova2528 said:
oh...i haven't gotten to parallel and series resistors set ups.

so, if resistors are set up in parallel, you don't add the resistance like you add capacitance...is that right?

:confused:How do you start connecting up capacitors before resistors?:confused:

But yes, you add them the opposite of how you add capacitances:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Series_and_parallel_circuits
 
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It could have a single element and an electronic (switched mode) power controller.

I seem to remember one which also altered the motor speed as well as the heating power.
 

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