How do I accurately model and calculate costs for different data plans?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around modeling and calculating costs for different data plans offered by an internet provider. Participants explore various mathematical models, including linear, quadratic, and logarithmic functions, to represent the pricing structures of these plans. The conversation includes finding intersection points of these models and the implications of removing included gigabytes from the plans.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Participants propose piecewise linear models for three current data plans: Appetizer, Quest, and Voyager, detailing monthly fees, included gigabytes, and costs for additional gigabytes.
  • One participant asks how to graph these models and find intersection points, indicating uncertainty about the process.
  • Another participant suggests that removing included gigabytes shifts the graphs left, leading to new linear equations for each plan.
  • There is discussion on how to input these models into Wolfram|Alpha for graphing and finding intersection points.
  • Participants share their calculated intersection points but face challenges in verifying their results, leading to corrections and clarifications about the equations used.
  • One participant expresses confusion about how to model the effects of removing included gigabytes, seeking guidance on the implications for quadratic and logarithmic models.
  • Another participant emphasizes the need to equate the non-horizontal portions of the models to find intersection points accurately.
  • Participants discuss the transition from current plans to potential new plans, including quadratic and logarithmic models, and the associated costs.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the initial modeling of the current plans but express differing views on the implications of removing included gigabytes and how to approach the new models. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best way to model these changes and find intersection points for the new plans.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of correctly identifying the portions of the piecewise functions when finding intersection points, highlighting potential confusion in mathematical representation. There are also references to specific software tools for graphing, which may have limitations based on user input.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students or professionals interested in mathematical modeling, particularly in the context of pricing strategies for services, as well as those looking to understand piecewise functions and their applications in real-world scenarios.

  • #31
eehh. what do you mean?
 
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  • #32
We are implicitly given two points through which both curves must pass.

For example, for the quadratic model, we know the quadratic portion of the function begins at (20,20), but must also pass through the point (60,60), since this is the amount for voyager customers at 60 gigabytes.

So, using:

$$f(x)=ax^2+b$$

we obtain the 2X2 linear system:

$$f(20)=a(20)^2+b=400a+b=20$$

$$f(60)=a(60)^2+b=3600a+b=60$$

Now you may determine the values of the parameters $a$ and $b$.

Then follow a similar process for the logarithmic model.
 
  • #33
(quadratic model):

f(x)=ax2+b

we obtain the 2X2 linear system:

where:

f(20)=a(20)2+b=400a+b=20

f(60)=a(60)2+b=3600a+b=60

Logarithmic model:

f(x) = a + b Ln(x)

where:

f(25) = a + b (25)Ln = 30

f(60) = a + b (60)Ln =60answer:

quadratic model:

f(60)=60, 3600a+(20-400a)=60, 3200a=40 and a=4/320=1/80.
b=20-400/80=20-5=15.

logarithmic model:

f(25)=30, a=30-bLn(25), f(60)=60, 30-bLn(60)=60, b=-30/Ln(60)=-7.33, a=30-(-30/Ln(60)*Ln(25)) =30(1+Ln(25)/Ln(60))=53.6
 
  • #34
ehh is that right?
 
  • #35
For the quadratic model, I get:

$$f(x)=\frac{1}{80}x^2+15$$

and for the logarithmic model:

$$f(x)=30\left(1+\frac{\ln\left(\frac{x}{25} \right)}{\ln\left(\frac{12}{5} \right)} \right)$$
 
  • #36
whaaaaat how did you get that?
 
  • #37
Substituting in for [math]x[/math] obviously shows MarkFL's answer is correct...however, it does not directly give you [math]a[/math] and [math]b[/math].

To do this, re-write:

[math]f(x) = 30 + \frac{30}{\ln\left(\frac{12}{5}\right)}\ln\left( \frac{x}{25}\right)[/math]

[math] = 30 + \frac{30}{\ln\left(\frac{12}{5}\right)}\ln(x) - \frac{30\ln(25)}{\ln\left(\frac{12}{5}\right)}[/math]

[math]= 30\left(1 - \frac{\ln(25)}{\ln\left( \frac{12}{5}\right)}\right) + \frac{30}{\ln\left(\frac{12}{5}\right)}\ln(x)[/math]

which tells you:

[math]a = 30\left(1 - \frac{\ln(25)}{\ln\left( \frac{12}{5}\right)}\right) \approx -80.302[/math]

[math]b = \frac{30}{\ln\left(\frac{12}{5}\right)} \approx 34.267[/math]**********

Solving the linear system:

[math]a + b\ln(25) = 30[/math]
[math]a + b\ln(60) = 60[/math], I obtain (subtracting the top equation from the bottom):

[math]b(\ln(60) - \ln(25)) = 30[/math]

[math]b = \frac{30}{\ln(60) - \ln(25)} = \frac{30}{\ln\left( \frac{12}{5}\right)}[/math]

Substituting this in the first equation:

[math]a = 30 - b\ln(25) = 30 - \left( \frac{30}{\ln\left( \frac{12}{5}\right)} \right)\ln(25)[/math]

[math] = 30\left(1 - \frac{\ln(25)}{\ln\left( \frac{12}{5}\right)}\right) [/math]

which also agrees with MarkFL's answer.
 
  • #38
ohhh ok.

I appreciate all of the help I am getting, thanks guys. I am actually done with this topic, i just want to know everything exactly how it is.

Thank you! How would i put that into wolfram for the graph?

and how would i do it without the included gigabytes, and the graph for that one?
 
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  • #39
any help guys please? :)
 
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