How do I arrest a rotation at any angle

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The discussion revolves around designing a mechanism to arrest the rotation of a hatch or board at any angle, specifically within ranges of 0-90, 90-180, and 0-360 degrees. Participants explore various methods and mechanisms for achieving this, including pneumatic rods, ratchets, and hydraulic systems, while seeking detailed building plans and specifications.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests using pneumatic rods to hold a hatch open at a desired angle.
  • Another proposes a spring-loaded detent mechanism to restrict rotation to predetermined angles.
  • Multiple participants mention various potential solutions, including ratchets, gravity, magnets, and motors, but emphasize the need for specific application details.
  • A participant raises the idea of using a bike drum brake, questioning its effectiveness for the intended purpose.
  • Concerns are expressed about the vagueness of the original question, with calls for more specific constraints to facilitate better responses.
  • One participant shares their context of constructing a home-built flight simulator and requests information on torque requirements for lifting a specific weight.
  • Another participant notes the importance of understanding fixed constraints to provide meaningful solutions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the question is too broad and requires more specific constraints. However, there is no consensus on a single solution, as multiple competing views and approaches are presented.

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Participants highlight the need for detailed parts and plans, indicating that the discussion is limited by the lack of specific application details and constraints. The effectiveness of proposed solutions may depend on these factors.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to engineers, hobbyists, and individuals involved in mechanical design or construction projects, particularly those seeking innovative solutions for rotational mechanisms.

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How would I go about creating something like a hatch, that could be arrested at any instance. I am looking for a solution for a 0-90, 90-180, and 0-180 degree range.
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A 360 degree solution such as a whiteboard, would work just as well. If you know how this can be made, or know a link that illustrates building plans, please say so.
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The two pics illustrate two methods.
i.e. the whiteboard is held against tilting by the screws at the pivots to either side. The hatch is held up by pneumatic rods.
There are many other approaches.
What's the problem?
 
What other approaches do you know?

Problems arise in the details. I need detailed parts and plans.
 
The problem here is that your question is too general ...

You could use a ratchet, hydraulics, and extendable stick, a bit of gum, a peg, your hand, a friend, magnets, a motor, gravity... it goes on.
You have provided two examples of how you may go about holding a hatch open at an angle of your choosing.
Well done: you have answered your own question.
 
Piers Goult said:
What other approaches do you know?

Problems arise in the details. I need detailed parts and plans.
The rotation could be restricted to a pre-determined angle by using a spring loaded detent. The detent mechanism is fixed on the hinge of the hatch or the white board.
 
I need the building details. Whatever complete solution you know, please explain it in detail. If you know more than one, start with the simplest.

Machinekraft, I need to arrest the board/hatch at any angle
 
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It is impossible to give building details if you don't explain in detail what you want to do. And even then: designing something for your specific application could be a lot of work, don't expect everyone to be happy to have the opportunity to work for free.
 
This is an open-ended question. I don't expect anyone to build this the way I want it built. I know there would be many ways to approach this, but in order to maximize responses, I leave it to each member to answer in a way that is most comfortable for that member. This is a rudimentary problem. I'd expect anyone with some engineering background would have some kind of solution.
 
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What about a bike drum brake ?
 

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After google searching in order to gain some kind of understanding as to what it is I am looking at, I don't see how this would arrest and fix a surface.
 
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Piers Goult said:
This is an open-ended question. I don't expect anyone to build this the way I want it built. I know there would be many ways to approach this, but in order to maximize responses, I leave it to each member to answer in a way that is most comfortable for that member. This is a rudimentary problem. I'd expect anyone with some engineering background would have some kind of solution.

Welcome to the PF.

The problem with asking your question in that way is that it wastes a lot of other people's time. As engineers, we want to know what the constraints are going in, so we can start to home in on some good potential solutions. Even when brainstorming, we want to know what constraints are fixed, and where we have freedom to innovate.
 
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berkeman said:
Welcome to the PF.
The problem with asking your question in that way is that it wastes a lot of other people's time. As engineers, we want to know what the constraints are going in, so we can start to home in on some good potential solutions. Even when brainstorming, we want to know what constraints are fixed, and where we have freedom to innovate.
Could you be more specific?
kenneth roy said:
I am constructing a home built flight simulator and am using hydraulic motors with a arm attached to the motor spindle for movement. I need to know how much torque I would need in the motor to lift 1000 lbs. Also I need to know how fast the motor should be to move the weight 1 foot in 2 seconds. Thank you in advance
Machinekraft said:
What is the maximum torque amplification that can be achieved using a mechanical torque amplifier?

The constraint is to arrest a range of motion of 360 degrees, or just 45 degrees. The illustration of the whiteboard is also a constraint. An explanation of the lock knob with an illustration would be great.
 

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