How do I calculate an area of joint uniform distribution with domain

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The discussion revolves around calculating the area of a joint uniform distribution for the lifetimes of two components, T1 and T2, under the constraints 0 < T1 < T2 < L, where L is a positive constant. Participants explore the geometric interpretation of the region defined by these constraints and the implications for the uniform density function.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes the joint density function for T1 and T2 and notes the area of the defined region is L^2/2, which is derived from the triangular shape formed by the constraints.
  • Another participant confirms the triangular region interpretation and states that the density must sum to one over this area, providing a formula for the density based on the area.
  • A later reply questions how the approach would change if a third variable, T3, is introduced, suggesting that the area would need to be divided by three in a three-dimensional space.
  • Another participant suggests that visualizing the three-dimensional space could help but warns that it may lead to incorrect assumptions about the fraction of the volume that corresponds to the feasible region.
  • Integration is proposed as a method to calculate the volume of the three-dimensional shape defined by the constraints involving T1, T2, and T3.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the geometric interpretation of the region for two variables but express uncertainty regarding the extension to three variables and how to calculate the corresponding volume. No consensus is reached on the correct approach for the three-variable case.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the dependence on geometric interpretations and the need for careful consideration of the constraints when extending to higher dimensions. There are unresolved aspects regarding the integration process and the exact formulation of the density in three dimensions.

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This technically isn't a coursework or homework problem:

I have a uniform Joint density function for the lifetimes of two components, let's call them T1 and T2. They have a uniform joint density function, both are positive it follows, and the region is 0<t1<t2<L and L is some positive constant.

So it said the domain has area (L^2)/2 following from this, Density is 1/(((L^2)/2)-1) or uniform density. I have no idea how to get that and area. Can someone help explain? I think I get that since joint I treat one as y and other x i multiply both densities but not really sure.
 
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From that fact that 0 < T1 < T2 < L, this defines a triangular region (let T1 = x, T2 = y) that is half a L x L square. So the area of this region is L^2/2.
The density is uniform, and must sum to one over the region.

The density you posted ##\frac{ 1}{ \frac{L^2}{2} -1} = \frac { \frac1A}{ 1 - \frac 1A }. ## where A = L^2/2, the area of the region.

I know that this is related to the condition that x < y, but I will need to look into it a little bit more to explain why.
 
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RUber said:
From that fact that 0 < T1 < T2 < L, this defines a triangular region (let T1 = x, T2 = y) that is half a L x L square. So the area of this region is L^2/2.
The density is uniform, and must sum to one over the region.

The density you posted ##\frac{ 1}{ \frac{L^2}{2} -1} = \frac { \frac1A}{ 1 - \frac 1A }. ## where A = L^2/2, the area of the region.

I know that this is related to the condition that x < y, but I will need to look into it a little bit more to explain why.
Awesome, thank you, and i apologize for the lateness of this reply...so by that rationale if it was 0 < T1 < T2 <T3< L, do I divide by three?
 
mattclgn said:
Awesome, thank you, and i apologize for the lateness of this reply...so by that rationale if it was 0 < T1 < T2 <T3< L, do I divide by three?
You will be in a 3D space, so you would expect L^3 divided by something. Drawing it out helps, but may lead to the wrong guess for the fraction of the cube in your feasible region.
You can also integrate to see the volume of the 3D shape.
##\int_0^L\int_0^{T3}\int_0^{T2} 1 dT1 dT2 dT3##
Note that if you did the same integral in xy, you get L^2/2.
 

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