How do I calculate electron acceleration by gravitational waves

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The discussion revolves around calculating the acceleration of electrons influenced by gravitational waves, particularly in the context of a magnetic neutral sheet. Participants explore various parameters and equations related to this calculation, referencing specific equations from research papers.

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  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the easiest way to calculate the resultant acceleration of electrons given the amplitude and frequency of gravitational waves and the vector potential of the surrounding magnetic field.
  • Another participant points out that the referenced paper provides calculation methods in a specific section.
  • A participant expresses a desire to code the formula but struggles with unknown parameters and the correct equation.
  • There is a discussion about the parameters needed for a specific equation (Eqn. 10) and whether they are sufficient for calculating electron acceleration.
  • Some participants challenge the original poster's lack of formal physics education and express skepticism about their ability to understand the complex material without a foundational knowledge.
  • Clarifications are made regarding the nature of certain parameters, such as Larmor frequency and wave frequency, and their units of measurement.
  • One participant emphasizes the importance of understanding basic physics before attempting to engage with advanced topics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally disagree on the ability of the original poster to engage with the material without a solid background in physics. There is no consensus on the sufficiency of the proposed parameters for the calculations.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved issues regarding the understanding of dimensional analysis and the correct interpretation of certain parameters. The discussion reflects a range of educational backgrounds among participants, impacting the depth of engagement with the topic.

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If the amplitude of gravitational waves, frequency of gravitational waves and the vector potential of magnetic field in surrounding of such waves are known then what would be the easiest way to calculate resultant acceleration of electrons?

My above question is based on the various researches around particle acceleration by gravity waves in neighborhood of magnetic neutral sheet

(http://arxiv.org/pdf/astro-ph/0312151.pdf -one of the researches.)
 
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AAB1994 said:
If the amplitude of gravitational waves, frequency of gravitational waves and the vector potential of magnetic field in surrounding of such waves are known then what would be the easiest way to calculate resultant acceleration of electrons?

Doesn't the paper itself take you through the calculation methods in section 2?
 
I wanted to code the whole formula and then keep trying with various values. There are few unknown parameters in the equations and I am unable to pinpoint the correct equation. Please Help
 
He says the equations of motion are Eqn. (10). What more do you need?
 
Vanadium 50 said:
He says the equations of motion are Eqn. (10). What more do you need?
Input would only be amplitude of gravity waves, frequency of gravity waves and vector potential of magnetic field. Now what would be the parameters for equation no. 10 and would it be enough for calculating accelerating electron or do I have to use other equations to get result from given input? As I said before I don't have any background in physics
 
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AAB1994 said:
As I said before I don't have any background in physics

Where did you say this? By making this thread an A, you said you wanted an answer at the graduate level.

Eqn. (10) is the answer. If you don't have the background to use the answer, I am not sure how we can help you.
 
http://cdsads.u-strasbg.fr/cgi-bin/..._paper=YES&type=PRINTER&filetype=.pdfequation no. 2b is used to calculate acceleration of particles. I am trying to solve it in hypothetical situation and want to know if following parameters taken are correct. (I am looking to get particle acceleration in meters per second)

Unperturbed velocity: some basic assumption in meters per second
Larmor frequency:In hertz
Wave frequency: In hertz
X3 : assumed direction in degrees
arbitary phase constant: again some assumption in meters per second
amplitude: in decibels(calculated with distance traveled in meters)

now are my parameters correct? and what is c and t ?
 
AAB1994 said:
and what is c and t ?
This should be obvious to anybody with some education in college physics. Are you saying that you are interested in this highly specialized physics paper without having any education in college physics?
 
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I do not have any formal education. I am learning everything on need to know basis for this paper. Can you pleasr help?
 
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AAB1994 said:
I am learning everything on need to know basis for this paper.
I'm sorry to say, but you will get nowhere with that approach. Without a good foundation in basic physics, it is impossible to understand such an article. Worse yet, you may think you understand without understanding.
 
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DrClaude said:
I'm sorry to say, but you will get nowhere with that approach. Without a good foundation in basic physics, it is impossible to understand such an article. Worse yet, you may think you understand without understanding.
Agreed. But could you please answer my question?
 
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I'll answer your questions, hoping for you to see that your are in over your head

AAB1994 said:
Larmor frequency:In hertz
Wave frequency: In hertz
These are angular frequencies, so in s-1, but not hertz

AAB1994 said:
X3 : assumed direction in degrees
It's not an angle, it is a position along a coordinate axis.

AAB1994 said:
arbitary phase constant: again some assumption in meters per second
amplitude: in decibels(calculated with distance traveled in meters)
α and a are dimensionless.

AAB1994 said:
now are my parameters correct? and what is c and t ?
c is the speed of light and t is time.

Look, you can't even do dimensional analysis to see if the units make sense. This is hopeless. Learn to walk before you run.
 
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This will be the end of this thread. OP, please learn physics properly before trying to make such calculations.

Thread closed.
 

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