How do I calculate the missing force on an aircraft?

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The discussion revolves around calculating a missing force on an aircraft, specifically in the context of vector forces including gravity and air resistance. The original poster presents a problem from a class paper, including multiple choice options for the missing force.

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  • Participants discuss the need for a vector diagram and question the validity of the provided force options. Some explore the relationship between the forces acting on the aircraft, while others express uncertainty about the concepts of vectors and forces.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the problem, with participants offering different interpretations of the forces involved. Some guidance has been provided regarding vector addition and the use of the Pythagorean theorem, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach or answer.

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Participants note that the original poster is working beyond their current coursework level and is seeking assistance to further their understanding of the topic. There are indications of confusion regarding the roles of different forces, particularly gravity and air resistance.

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This was from a recent paper we did in class, I've tried to re-create the drawing as best I can.

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/378/14264945.jpg

The options were (I think)

a) 10n
b) 6n
c) 4n
d) 2n

Homework Equations



Not sure

The Attempt at a Solution

I'm not sure how to work out the missing force
 
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Do you know how to draw a vector diagram? None of the choices are correct because the answer has to be greater than 10 N (the 6 N can't have no effect).
 
Sorry, I'm not sure how to do that, had a look in goggle and some textbooks, but got nothing simple. I'm 11, and this is beyond the scope of my current course at school, this was off a paper from ground school (flight school), I'm trying to get to grips with it in my spare time to aid my ambition of becoming a pilot.

If you could help me out I'd appreciate it, thanks for your time.
 
so what you are looking here is

Force of gravity pointing downwards, that's your 6n and your ten Newtons is your force air resistance. now you have to find the vector for you which is your x. do you know about vectors at all?
 
Centurion1 said:
Force of gravity pointing downwards, that's your 6n and your ten Newtons is your force air resistance. now you have to find the vector for you which is your x. do you know about vectors at all?

Sorry, but that's just plain wrong. Can 6N reasonably be gravity? Is the 10N even in the right direction to be air resistance?

justice: adding vectors (which is what forces are) is similar to adding displacements. If you walk 6m "down" and 10 m forwards, how far have you walked in total? Hint: You'd use the Pythagorean theorem to figure it out. Whatever number you get is the answer to the question (the only thing that's different is the name of the unit).
 
maybe I am wrong but isn't the 6n the Net force in the y direction? so it involves the upwards force and gravity

and isn't the only force the plane will be encountering in the 10n direction air resistance? i assume trhe plane is going forwards. :)
pythagorean is c^2= a^2 + b^2 by the way

if you look at it like a triangle then you are trying to find the hypotenuse i believe.

Edit: oh wow I am stupid. of course its not air resistance. air resistance points in the opposite direction. your 10n is your net force of the plane in the x direction. lol I am an idiot.
 
So the answer would 10^2 + 6^2 = 136

and then find the square root of 136? This would come out to a decimal though and I'm sure there was no answer with a decimal.
 
Can anyone confirm the above method is correct?
 

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