How do I compute the derivative of ln (7x+1)^1/2 (3x^2+x)^5 / (x^2-3)^3 e^2x?

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The discussion focuses on computing the derivative of the function ln((7x+1)^(1/2) * (3x^2+x)^5 / ((x^2-3)^3 * e^(2x))). Participants emphasize the importance of applying logarithmic properties to simplify the expression before differentiation. The final simplified expression for the derivative involves terms derived from the properties of logarithms, specifically ln(a^n) = n ln(a) and ln(e^(2x)) = 2x. Correcting minor errors in the final expression is also highlighted, ensuring accuracy in the derivative calculation.

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The question is to compute the derivative of
ln (7x+1)^1/2 (3X^2+x)^5
(x^2-3)^3 e^2x
the ln is for both the numerator and denominator

I tried the chain rule and came up with this

1
(7x+1)^1/2 (3x^2+x)^5
(x^2-3)^3 e^2x

and finally 6x(x^2-3)^2 2e^2x
7/2(7x+1)^-1/2 30x(3x^2+x)^4
 
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You may want to try to apply some logarithm properties to that to simplify it.

For example, lna/b is the same thing as lna - lnb. lna^b = blna. lna*b = lna + lnb...
 
nanai said:
The question is to compute the derivative of
ln (7x+1)^1/2 (3X^2+x)^5
(x^2-3)^3 e^2x
the ln is for both the numerator and denominator

I tried the chain rule and came up with this

1
(7x+1)^1/2 (3x^2+x)^5
(x^2-3)^3 e^2x

and finally 6x(x^2-3)^2 2e^2x
7/2(7x+1)^-1/2 30x(3x^2+x)^4

Are you sayingthat your final expression is your final result for the derivative? That is not correct.

As Moose said, use first properties of the ln to write this as a *SUM* of 4 terms and bring down the exponents using ln(a^n)= n ln(a). Also, use ln ( e^{2x}) = 2x. Only after doing all that you should take the derivative and it will be quite simple.
 
ok I used the ln property and here is what I got.

ln(7x+1)^1/2+ln(3x^2+x)^5-ln(x^2-3)^3+lne^2x

1/2ln(7x+1) +5ln(3x^2+x)-3ln(x^2-3)+2x

and finally 1/2*7/7x+1+5*6x/3x^2+x -3*2x/x^2-3 + 2

am I right?
 
Apart from the '+1' missing from numerator of the third term(in the final answer), everything else seems to be right.
 
It's -2x, not +2x (e2x was in the denominator of the fraction.)
And, of course, you'll want to simplify those fractions.
 
Thanks everyone
 

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