How do I convert an integral from LHS to RHS?

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The discussion revolves around converting an integral from the left-hand side (LHS) to the right-hand side (RHS) in the context of spherical coordinates. The original poster expresses confusion about the transformation process and the notation used in the integral.

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  • Participants discuss the notation and the implications of using different variables in spherical coordinates. There are questions about the validity of separating the integral into distinct parts and the potential confusion arising from the angles involved.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the notation and the mathematical principles at play. Some guidance has been offered regarding the interpretation of the integral and the use of spherical coordinates, but there is no explicit consensus on the best approach to the problem.

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There is mention of a PDF attachment for further clarification, and participants note potential issues with the mixing of variables and angles in the integral setup. The original poster's lack of familiarity with LaTeX is also highlighted as a constraint in the discussion.

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I have a problem with a integral. Could someone tell me how to get from the LHS to RHS? It must be very easy, but as so often I don't get it.

Since I have not mastered Latex yet, I attached a pdf file.

thanks
 

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In LaTex what you have is
[tex]\frac{1}{k^2+ m^2}\int e^{i\vec{k}\dot\vec{r}}d\vec{k}= \int k d\phi \intk sin(\theta)d\theta \int \frac{e^{ik|r|cos(/theta)}}{k^2+ m^2}dk[/tex]
(Click on that for a pop-up box showing the code.)

I had to stare at that a while until I realized- those blasted engineers have mixed up [itex]\theta[/itex] and [/itex]\phi[/itex] again! Also, it is using "k" for the length of [itex]\vec{k}[/itex]. I take it that "[itex]\vec{k}[/itex]" is the position vector of a point in the space being integrated over (here all of R3).

The right hand side is in spherical coordinates, using k instead of the more standard [itex]\rho[/itex]. In spherical coordinates (mathematics version!)
[tex]dV= \rho^2 sin(\phi)d\rho d\phi d\theta[/tex]
In "engineer speak", as here, it is
[tex]dV= \k^2 sin(\theta)dk d\theta d\phi[/tex]

That has been separated into
[tex](k d\phi)(k sin(\theta)d\theta)(dk)[/tex]
Of course, since [itex]\vec{u}\dot\vec{v}= |u||v|cos(\theta)[/itex], that
[itex]i\vec{k}\dot\vec{r}= ik|r|cos(\theta)[/tex]<br /> <br /> It's not clear to me that breaking it up that way is valid, because clearly k is a variable (dk in one integral) and so putting k into the [itex]d\theta[/itex] and [itex]d\phi[/itex] integrals doesn't make sense.[/itex]
 
Basically, all that's happened is writing the integral over all space in spherical coordinates [itex]d^3\vec k=k^2\sin \theta dk d\theta d\phi[/itex] and using [itex]\vec k \cdot \vec r=|r|k\cos \theta[/itex].
But the way it's written it looks like a product of three integrals, which it is not!
And unless [itex]\vec r[/itex] points along the z-axis you must not confuse the angle between [itex]\vec k[/itex] and [itex]\vec r[/itex] with the angle [itex]\theta[/itex] over which you are integrating.
 
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Thanks HallsofIvy, thanks Galileo!

Good to know that this time it was not all my fault.
 

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