How do I convert specific gravity of salt water to density and concentrations?

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The discussion revolves around converting the specific gravity of salt water to density, concentration, and parts per million (ppm) total dissolved solids (TDS). Participants explore the relationships between specific gravity, density, and salinity, while addressing potential confusion regarding measurement units and variations in seawater properties.

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  • One participant measured the specific gravity of salt water as 1.028 and expressed confusion about converting this to density and concentration, questioning the meaning of the units displayed on the refractometer.
  • Another participant inquired whether the concentration of salt should be compared to the density of the solution.
  • A different participant suggested that the most reliable method to determine concentration is to refer to density tables that correlate density with weight/weight percentages.
  • Clarification was provided that the 0/00 notation indicates parts per thousand, with the specific gravity measurement consistent with a salt concentration of 36-37 g/kg.
  • Concerns were raised about the differences in density measurements between salt water and seawater, with one participant noting that variations in density can occur due to different environmental conditions.
  • One participant questioned the relationship between density and the mass of salt, suggesting that if density is 1.028 g/ml, the mass of salt should be 0.028g, prompting a discussion about the complexities of volume changes upon dissolving salt.
  • Another participant provided examples of how the mass of salt added to water can yield different densities, emphasizing the lack of simple rules for predicting these outcomes and the necessity of experimental data.
  • Typographical errors in previous posts were acknowledged and corrected by participants.

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Participants express various viewpoints and uncertainties regarding the conversion of specific gravity to density and concentration. There is no consensus on the best approach to resolve the confusion surrounding the measurements and their implications.

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Participants note that the density of seawater can vary based on environmental conditions, and the relationship between the mass of dissolved salt and the resulting density is not straightforward, depending on multiple factors.

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density, specific gravity, concentrations of salt water
I recently measured the specific gravity of salt water (NaCl) with a hand refractometer of solution to be 1.028 d 20/20 and 36-37 0/00 at 20 deg C. the d 20/20 and 0/00 are the units on the refractometer view screen. I am not sure if the 0/00 means percentage or g/kg.

I am trying to convert this into density (kg/m^3), concentration (mg/L), and (ppm TDS). I am confused on exactly how to do this.

Since the specific gravity is 1.028 that of freshwater, which is 1.000, then density would be 1028 kg/m^3 using the formula below?

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If the density of 1028 kg/m^3 and I convert units directly, I get something like:

1028 kg/m^3 * 1000000 mg/1kg * 1 m^3 / 1000 L = 1028000 mg/L or 1.028 kg/L

But I have been reading that sea water of approximate density of 1.025 kg/L has approximately 3.5% salt content, 35 g/kg, or 35 000 ppm AND that ppm and mg/L are the same with liquids. So I am really confused why 1028000 mg/L is so much larger. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

I know there is a temperature dependence here too, but I am trying to understand if I am in the ballpark for the concentration value.
 
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Do I understand correctly that you compare concentration of the salt to the density of the solution?
 
Borek, thanks for your reply. My goal is to calculate the correct salinity concentration in mg/L from my initial measurement of specific gravity and percentage.
 
The only sure way is to read the concentration for a given density from density tables. Most often they will have density vs w/w %. Once you know density and concentration in any units, you can convert to any other units.
 
0/00 means parts per thousand, as 0/0 (%) means parts per hundred. 36 0/00 means a fraction of 0.036, or 3.6%, or 36 g/kg. So your meter is telling you the specific gravity is 1.028 and the salt concentration is 36-37 g/kg, which is consistent with your data for sea water.
 
What you have written is that you have measured the density of salt water - not sea water, and the difference in density is 1.025 vs 1.028, that is only 0.3% higher.
Could it be due to measurement differences?

You could see that the density of seawater also changes from 1.020 to 1.029
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seawater#Thermophysical_properties_of_Seawater
Also, the value 3.5% of salt is a kind of average and it varies over different conditions. The Arctic Ocean has a concentration of 3.1% because of ice melting, whereas the Red Sea and the Mediterranean near Egypt has a concentration of 3.8% due to higher evaporation. Freshwater could be seen much further into the open Atlantic Ocean near to the mouth of the Amazon river because of the large volume of freshwater flow.

I just did a bit search, this Britannica article shows 1.02813 as the density at the surface.
https://www.britannica.com/science/seawater/Density-of-seawater-and-pressureAlso, the following ones show different values computed by different calculations
https://hypertextbook.com/facts/2002/EdwardLaValley.shtml
 
If density is 1.028 g/ml, then surely the mass of salt is 0.028g? Or can someone correct me here.
 
It depends upon whether the volume changes after salt dissolves.
 
tech99 said:
If density is 1.028 g/ml, then surely the mass of salt is 0.028g? Or can someone correct me here.

No, it is not. It is actually quite random and depends on many factors.

Take 2.8 g of NaF, add to 1 L of water - mass is 1028 g, density is 1.0015 g/mL

Take 2.8 g of NaCl, add to 1 L of water - mass is 1028 g, density is 1.0001 g/mL

Take 2.8 g of NaI, add to 1 L of water - mass is 1028 g, density is 1.0003 g/mL

No simple rules that will let you predict the dependence. Experimental tables are the only sure way.
 
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Looks like there is a typo... Both (1) and (3) says the same 2.8g of NaF to 1L water but the densities look different.
 
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Anand Sivaram said:
Looks like there is a typo...

Thanks for spotting, yes, should be NaI in the last line. That's what happens when you ^C^V instead of retyping every line.

Corrected.
 
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