How do I derive the Covariant Derivative for Covectors? (Lower index)

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The discussion revolves around deriving the covariant derivative for covectors, specifically the expression for \(\nabla_{\alpha} V_{\mu}\). Participants are exploring the relationship between the covariant derivative of covectors and that of vectors, particularly focusing on the role of the Christoffel symbols.

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  • Participants discuss the derivation of the covariant derivative for covectors and question why the Christoffel symbol appears with a negative sign in this context. They also explore the implications of using the product rule for covariant derivatives and the nature of scalar quantities derived from vector and covector products.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights and guidance on using the product rule and addressing the properties of scalar quantities. There is an ongoing exploration of the relationships between the terms involved in the derivation, though no consensus has been reached on all aspects of the problem.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of index manipulation and the definitions of covariant derivatives, with some expressing uncertainty about the implications of independence from certain variables.

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Hello everyone!

I'm trying to learn the derivation the covariant derivative for a covector, but I can't seem to find it.

I am trying to derive this:

\nabla_{α} V_{μ} = \partial_{α} V_{μ} - \Gamma^{β}_{αμ} V_{β}

If this is a definition, I want to know why it works with the definition of the covariant derivative of a vector:

\nabla_{α} V^{μ} = \partial_{α} V^{μ} + \Gamma^{μ}_{αβ} V^{β}

Why is the Christoffel symbol negative for a covector? Can anyone explain this to me?

Thank you all so much.
 
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Try working out \nabla_\alpha \left( V^\mu V_\mu \right) a couple of different ways:

1) Using the product rule for covariant derivatives;

2) using the fact that V^\mu V_\mu is a scalar.
 
This is one of the leads I found here, but I don't know how to progress.

Right now, I am here:

V^{μ} \nabla_{α} V_{μ} = \partial_{α} (V^{μ} V_{μ}) - V_{μ} \partial_{α} V^{μ} - V_{μ} \Gamma^{μ}_{αβ} V^{β}

Here are some questions I have:

I understand that V^{μ} V_{μ} is a scalar, so what is the partial derivative of it? I tried to do it with zero if it is independent of α but it doesn't look like it leads to the covariant derivative.

Also, how do I remove the V^{μ} on the LHS? Do I multiply by V_{μ}?
 
LoadedAnvils said:
I understand that V^{μ} V_{μ} is a scalar, so what is the partial derivative of it?

Use the product rule for partial derivatives.

LoadedAnvils said:
Also, how do I remove the V^{μ} on the LHS? Do I multiply by V_{μ}?

You don't have to remove it; you need to relabel indices in the last term on the right side.
 
George Jones said:
Use the product rule for partial derivatives.

I don't know what two terms I would use in the product rule. Once I separate the vector and covector I can't use the partial derivative anymore (or so I think). Can you explain to me how I would use the product rule in this case?

George Jones said:
You don't have to remove it; you need to relabel indices in the last term on the right side.

I see what you mean, however, without knowing the partial derivative I don't know what I can do with this yet.
 
LoadedAnvils said:
I don't know what two terms I would use in the product rule. Once I separate the vector and covector I can't use the partial derivative anymore (or so I think). Can you explain to me how I would use the product rule in this case?

I am not sure what you mean. More explicitly: use the product rule for partial derivatives on \partial_\alpha \left( V^\mu V_\mu \right).
 
Oh, now I get it!

For those reading this in the future, this is what I got:

\partial_{α} (V^{μ} V_{μ}) = V^{μ} \partial_{α} V_{μ} + V_{μ} \partial_{α} V^{μ}

Thus,

V^{μ} \nabla_{α} V_{μ} = V^{μ} \partial_{α} V_{μ} + V_{μ} \partial_{α} V^{μ} - V_{μ} \partial_{α} V^{μ} - V_{μ} \Gamma^{μ}_{αβ} V^{β}

So V_{μ} \partial_{α} V^{μ} cancels out, and we have V^{μ} \nabla_{α} V_{μ} = V^{μ} \partial_{α} V_{μ} - V_{μ} \Gamma^{μ}_{αβ} V^{β}.

We can rewrite V_{μ} \Gamma^{μ}_{αβ} V^{β} as V^{β} \Gamma^{μ}_{αβ} V_{μ}.

Since μ and β are arbitrary indices, we can swap them around.

Thus, V^{β} \Gamma^{μ}_{αβ} V_{μ} = V^{μ} \Gamma^{β}_{αμ} V_{β}, and

V^{μ} \nabla_{α} V_{μ} = V^{μ} \partial_{α} V_{μ} - V^{μ} \Gamma^{β}_{αμ} V_{β}.

Eliminating V^{μ}, we reach the desired result:

\nabla_{α} V_{μ} = \partial_{α} V_{μ} - \Gamma^{β}_{αμ} V_{β}
 

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