I Is Covariant Derivative Notation Misleading in Vector Calculus?

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The discussion centers on the notation for covariant derivatives in vector calculus, with a focus on the potential confusion arising from the representation of vectors and their components. The original poster argues that the notation ##\nabla_\mu V^\nu## misleadingly suggests a direct operation on the components of a vector, while they propose a clearer alternative, ##(\nabla_\mu V)^\nu##. Participants highlight that the covariant derivative is a (1, 1) tensor, and there is debate over whether the notation adequately distinguishes between vectors and their components. The conversation also touches on the implications of using different notations for directional derivatives and covariant derivatives. Overall, the thread emphasizes the need for clarity in mathematical notation to avoid misinterpretation.
  • #121
cianfa72 said:
Is that correct now ?
Looks good.
 
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  • #122
Orodruin said:
Looks good.
And what was wrong with my derivation? I don't see any difference.
 
  • #123
vanhees71 said:
And what was wrong with my derivation? I don't see any difference.
I never said anything was wrong with it. I complained about #118.
 
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Orodruin said:
I never said anything was wrong with it. I complained about #118.
Yep, my fault sorry.
 
  • #125
dextercioby said:
I cannot believe there are 100 posts here about a simple pure ... issue
This, unfortunately, has become a characteristic feature in here.
dextercioby said:
In mathematics ##\nabla_{\mu}V^{\nu}## is ill defined
No, it is not. In mathematics we define things. So, on a generic tensor (density) T_{A} \equiv T^{\rho_{1}\cdots \rho_{r}}_{{}\tau_{1}\cdots \tau_{s}}, I define the operator \nabla_{\mu} by the rule \nabla_{\mu}T_{A} \equiv \partial_{\mu}T_{A} + \Gamma^{\lambda}_{\mu\nu}[T_{A}]^{\nu}{}_{\lambda} , where [T^{\rho_{1} \cdots \rho_{r}}_{{}\tau_{1}\cdots \tau_{s}}]^{\nu}{}_{\lambda} \equiv \sum_{p = 1}^{r} \delta^{\rho_{p}}_{\lambda}T^{\rho_{1}\cdots \rho_{p-1}\nu \rho_{p+1}\cdots \rho_{r}}_{{}{}{}{}\tau_{1} \cdots \tau_{s}} - \sum_{q = 1}^{s} \delta^{\nu}_{\tau_{q}}T^{\rho_{1}\cdots \rho_{r}}_{{}\tau_{1}\cdots \tau_{q-1}\lambda \tau_{q+1}\cdots \tau_{s}} - \delta^{\nu}_{\lambda}T_{A} , with last term is absent when T_{A} is not a density.

Remaks: (1) Notice that [T_{A}]^{\nu}{}_{\lambda} \epsilon^{\lambda}{}_{\nu} is nothing but the change of T_{A} under an infinitesimal \mbox{GL}(n) transformation parametrized by \epsilon^{\lambda}{}_{\nu}. So, for any object \Psi, we define [\Psi]^{\nu}{}_{\lambda} by its infinitesimal transformation under the general linear group \mbox{GL}(n).

(2) You can show that the (above defined) operator \nabla_{\mu} satisfies the Leibniz rule.
 
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