How do I evaluate the integral for a specified area on the xy-plane?

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The discussion revolves around evaluating a double integral over a specified rectangular region in the xy-plane, specifically focusing on the integral $$\int\int_R \sqrt{1-x^2}dA$$ where $$R={(x,y)|-1 \leq x \leq 1, -2 \leq y \leq 2}$$. Participants explore the concept of iterated integrals and the interpretation of the integral in terms of volume under a surface.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about the evaluation of the integral and the meaning of $$dA$$ in the context of area integration.
  • Another participant confirms the integral to be evaluated is $$\int^{2}_{-2} \, \int^{1}_{-1} \sqrt{1-x^2} \, dx \, dy$$.
  • Some participants discuss the integration over the rectangle defined by the limits of x and y, questioning how to handle the integration with respect to y when the function does not depend on y.
  • A suggestion is made to evaluate the inner integral $$\int^1_{-1} \sqrt{1-x^2} \, dx$$ first, treating the result as a function of y for the outer integral.
  • Participants introduce the concept of iterated integrals as a method for evaluating the double integral.
  • One participant shares an exercise involving the evaluation of the integral of a constant function over a square region, relating it to the volume of a cube.
  • Another participant highlights that the integral represents the volume above the specified area on the xy-plane for positive values of z.

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Participants generally agree on the approach to evaluate the integral using iterated integrals, though there is some uncertainty regarding the interpretation of the integration limits and the role of the variable y in the function.

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There are discussions about the assumptions involved in treating the integral as an iterated integral and the dependence on the definitions of the variables and regions involved.

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Hello MHB,
This is an exemple I do not understand.
if $$R={(x,y)|-1 \leq x \leq 1, -2 \leq y \leq 2}$$, evaluate the integral
$$\int\int_R \sqrt{1-x^2}dA$$ (It is suposed to be R at down for 'rectangle' if I understand correct.)
they solve it like this $$\int\int_R \sqrt{1-x^2}dA = \frac{1}{2} \pi(1)^2 * 4 = 2\pi$$
I don't understand how they do it and
The defination says:
"If $$f(x,y) \geq0$$, then the volume V of the solid that lies above the rectangle R and below the surface $$z=f(x,y)$$ is
$$V=\int\int_R f(x,y)dA$$"
What I can note is that $$\sqrt {1-x^2} \geq0$$ and $$z=\sqrt{1-x^2} <=> x^2+z^2=1$$ so then the volume lies above the rectangle and below $$z= \sqrt{1-x^2}$$ but I get confused with dA, integrate respect to area?

Regards,
 
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You are asked to solve the integral

$$\int^{2}_{-2} \, \int^{1}_{-1} \sqrt{1-x^2} \, dx \, dy$$
 
ZaidAlyafey said:
You are asked to solve the integral

$$\int^{2}_{-2} \, \int^{1}_{-1} \sqrt{1-x^2} \, dx \, dy$$
is it that easy >.<
 
Yes , you are asked to integrate over the rectangle [-1,1]x[-2,2]
 
ZaidAlyafey said:
Yes , you are asked to integrate over the rectangle [-1,1]x[-2,2]
How will it work with integrate with dy? I don't have any y in my function so..?
 
You can think of it as a nested integral so you start first by evaluating $$\int^1_{-1} \sqrt{1-x^2} \, dx $$

Then what ever the result you get assume to be f(y) then you evaluate

$$\int^{2}_{-2} f(y) \, dy $$
 
ZaidAlyafey said:
You can think of it as a nested integral so you start first by evaluating $$\int^1_{-1} \sqrt{1-x^2} \, dx $$

Then what ever the result you get assume to be f(y) then you evaluate

$$\int^{2}_{-2} f(y) \, dy $$
Thanks Zaid!:) One last quest why can I do that? I don't think I ever read about it or I have just missed it. Thanks!
 
This is what we call iterated integral .

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Just as an exercise try to evaluate the integral of z=2 over the rectangle [0,2]x[0,2] and verify this is the volume of a cube.
 
ZaidAlyafey said:
This is what we call iterated integral .

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Just as an exercise try to evaluate the integral of z=2 over the rectangle [0,2]x[0,2] and verify this is the volume of a cube.
This is what makes this forum so good:)! Thanks for helping me and giving me an exercise! I really like this thanks thanks!:)

we got :
$$\int_0^2\int_0^22 dxdy$$ so the volume becomes $$V=8cm^3$$ (I just like to have 'unit'
A cube is like 6 square View attachment 736 when our is 2cm long (Here is me draw it on paint but it looks like a rectangle but its a square) View attachment 737 formel for volume of a cube is $$a^3$$ and our $$a=2$$ ( lenght) so the volume of the cube becomes $$2^3=8cm^3$$
 

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Excellent , so we see that for positive z>0 this is actually the volume over the specified area on the xy-plane .
 

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