How do I find the volume using cylindrical coordinates for the given region?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around finding the volume of a region bounded by the surfaces z = 3 - 2y and z = x^2 + y^2 using cylindrical coordinates. The participants explore the setup of the problem, including the limits of integration and the geometry of the region.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses difficulty in determining the radius for the volume calculation, stating they found r^2 = 3 - 2r*sin(zeta) and are struggling to factorize it.
  • Another participant corrects the first by noting that the surfaces are reversed in terms of which is above and which is below, clarifying that z = 3 - 2y is above z = x^2 + y^2.
  • The second participant provides the intersection condition for the surfaces, leading to a circular region described by x^2 + (y + 3/2)^2 = 21/4, suggesting that ordinary polar coordinates may not simplify the integration.
  • Two methods for integration are proposed: one using Cartesian coordinates and the other by shifting the origin to facilitate the use of polar coordinates.
  • A later reply expresses appreciation for the suggestion of shifting the origin.
  • Another participant humorously responds with "LOL 8pie," indicating a light-hearted acknowledgment of the problem's solution.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best approach to solve the problem, and multiple methods are discussed without agreement on a single solution path.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved aspects regarding the integration limits and the transformation to cylindrical coordinates, particularly the implications of the intersection of the surfaces.

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I need some help in this

The question states find the volume for the region bounded below by z = 3 - 2y and above by z = x^2 + y^2 using cylindrical coordinates .

Now i tried to do it but i got stuck with the part where i find the radius . i found
r^2 = 3-2r*sin(zeta) :( its hard to factorize and use this for the boundary

i already know that z will range from r^2 to 3-2r*sin(zeta) and zeta range from zero to 2 pie

so how can this question be solved ? :)

btw the correct answer is 8pie
 
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First, you have "below" and "above" reversed. The plane z= 3- 2y is above the paraboloid z= x^2+ y^2 in the bounded region.

They intersect where z= x^2+ y^2= 3- 3y which is equivalent to x^2+ y^2+ 3y= 3. x^2+ y^2+ 3y+ 9/4= x^2+ (y+3/2)^2= 3+ 9/4= 21/4. That is a circle with center at (0, -3/2) which is why ordinary polar coordinates do not give a simple equation. Either
1: integrate with x from -\sqrt{21}/2 to \sqrt{21}/2 and, for each x, y from -3/2- \sqrt{21/4- x^2} to -3/2+ \sqrt{21/4- x^2}.

2: Let x= rcos(\theta) and y= -3/2+ rsin(\theta), shifting the origin to (0, -3/2).
 
Oh i c :D ! Thanks a lot . I wasn't aware of shifting the origin :) !

Thanks :D !
 
LOL 8pie
 
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