How do i prove that the limit of x^n / n is 0?

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The discussion revolves around proving that the limit of the expression x^n / n! approaches 0 as n approaches infinity, for any value of x. Participants explore the behavior of the factorial function compared to exponential growth.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the formal proof structure and the implications of different values of x, including positive, negative, and zero. Some express confusion over the limit's direction and the correct formulation of the problem. Others suggest examining the growth rates of x^n and n! and consider using absolute values in their reasoning.

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The conversation is ongoing, with various participants contributing their thoughts and attempts. Some have proposed specific approaches, while others are still clarifying their understanding of the problem. There is no explicit consensus yet, but several productive lines of reasoning are being explored.

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Participants mention constraints related to their current knowledge level and the mathematical tools available to them, indicating that some may not be able to utilize certain advanced concepts in their proofs.

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Homework Statement


x^n / n! -> 0 for any value of x and n -> 0


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What have you tried to do so far?
 
I know generally how to do it i just don't get how to write it in a formal proof. like x^n is always going to be approaching infinity slower than (n!) for x > 1 and for x = 1 its just 1/n! but what about x =< -1? because this doesn't converge to any number. however (n!) will always be greater than |x| soo...

hey wait maybe i could prove that |x^n|/(n!) -> 0 and use the absolute value rule...
 
burhan1 said:

Homework Statement


x^n / n! -> 0 for any value of x and n -> 0
I don't think you have stated the problem correctly. Isn't this limit as n --> ∞?
 
Mark44 said:
I don't think you have stated the problem correctly. Isn't this limit as n --> ∞?

I think so too. The limit of xn/n! as n--->0 is 1, not 0 as x0=1 and 0!=1.

As for xn/n! as n--->∞, try expanding the numerator and denominator of the limit. What does xn look like? What does n! look like?
 
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Oops yeah n -> infinity. sorry about that =/
 
well x^n looks like a hell lotta x's multiplied together and n! looks like n(n-1)(n-2)...! and i realize that for any value of x, there exists n s.t n is wayyyyyy greater than x so n! will be wayyy greater than x^n but how do i prove itt... :S
 
It's impossible to tell you how to prove this without knowing what you have available! In my oppinion, the simplest way is to note that the series, [itex]\sum x^n/n![/itex] converges to [itex]e^x[/itex]. Since it converges, the sequence of terms, [itex]x^n/n![/itex] must converge to 0. But you may not be able to use that.
 
im a first year undergraduate i have nothing on me panicking like crazy xD

and that didnt help TT_TT
 
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Prove that for n large
(2/n)n<1/n!<(3/n)n
 
  • #11
Show that [x^(n+1)/(n+1)!] < [x^n/n!] when n>>x.
Then [x^(n+1)/(n+1)!] / [x^n/n!] = x/(n+1) = 0 when n→∞.
 
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ive already tried those but we don't have sufficient knowledge to use that stuff yet.

heres what I am trying:
Prove that a_n = (x^n/n!) -> 0 for all x

Choose ε > 0. Then there exists for all N ,which belongs to natural numbers, n>N and |a_n| < ε
so, |(x^n/n!)| < ε => |x^n| < n!*ε (since n! is positive the absolute sign is not significant?)
so |x|/[ε^(1/n)] < [n!^(1/n)].

so choose any natural number N s.t. N > |x|/[ε^(1/n)]

If n>N then x^n/n! < x^N/N! < ε

which means a_n -> 0.

is this correct in any sense? =S
 
  • #13
Can you prove that
lim (a x/n)n=0?
because
(2/n)n<1/n!<(3/n)n
implies
xn/n!~(a x/n)n
 
  • #14
no that is the next question lurf :P

i've done it guys. thanks anyway for the help!
 

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