How Do Quarks Influence Chemistry?

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The discussion centers around the role of quarks in chemistry, exploring their influence and relevance to chemical processes and concepts. Participants are attempting to connect theoretical physics, particularly concepts from particle physics and string theory, to chemical applications.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks clarification on how quarks are utilized in chemistry, expressing difficulty in finding relevant information.
  • Another participant questions the applicability of Newton's law of universal gravitation to describe atomic structures, specifically hydrogen.
  • Some participants discuss the relative strength of gravity compared to other fundamental forces, noting that gravity is minor in most chemical contexts.
  • There is a mention of string theory and its potential implications for understanding particle mass and forces, though its direct relevance to chemistry is debated.
  • Participants discuss the confinement of quarks within baryons and mesons, questioning the possibility of observing individual quarks and the energies required for such observations.
  • One participant recalls that particle accelerators can reveal properties of quarks through proton collisions, but questions whether this is more relevant to physics than chemistry.
  • There is uncertainty regarding the energy scales used in particle accelerators compared to those typically encountered in chemical reactions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relevance of quarks to chemistry, with some arguing that their influence is minimal while others suggest potential connections through advanced theories. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific applications of quarks in chemical contexts.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations in their understanding of the energy scales involved in both particle physics and chemistry, as well as the complexities of relating fundamental particle interactions to chemical phenomena.

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Homework Statement



Describe the use of quarks in chemistry.

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N/A (I think?)

The Attempt at a Solution



I've tried searching, and can find plenty of information on what the quark is, but I can't find a thing on how it is used. I searched google, google scholars, youtube (hoping for a lecture), and not really sure where to turn to next. Could anybody help?

Edit - I watched a TED video on string theory, and although it doesn't seem to direct relate to chemistry, would this still be a valid response? According to the speaker it explains things like the mass of particles, gravity, electromagnetic forces, etc.
 
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Will you use Newton's law of universal gravitation to describe hydrogen atom?
 
Er..I don't think so? From what I understand, the force of gravity acting upon most things is very minor compared to the other 3 fundamental forces. However, the TED speaker said there was 20+ things that string theory would reveal or at least confirm, do these have anything to do with chemistry?
 
Greywolfe1982 said:
From what I understand, the force of gravity acting upon most things is very minor compared to the other 3 fundamental forces.

Very good.

Now, what is energy scale required to observe individual quarks?
 
What do you mean by observe individual quarks? I thought that was impossible, because quarks were confined within the baryon or meson? (I'm not really sure, that's just what I got out of reading a bit of "Introductory to Elementary Particles")
 
You are right about quarks being confined - I don't mean isolating them, but observing - there are experiments where we can 'see' effects of the quark presence. What energies are required for that?
 
I seem to remember reading somewhere that, when using a particle accelerator, protons being collided would show distinct properties of the presence of quarks within the proton. I'm not even sure if that's right/relevant, it's just one of the many things I read today. But even if that is right, wouldn't that be more to do with a use in physics rather than chemistry?
 
You are on the right track.

How do energies used in the particle accelerators compare to energies in chemistry?
 
I'm really not sure about what kinds of energies are used in particle accelerators. For Chemistry, all I can really think of is electrostatic attraction that occurs when there is an ionic bond (although my brain is pretty fried at this point, so I guarantee there's others I'm forgetting).
 

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