How Do Rotor and Stator Pole Numbers Affect BLDC Motor Efficiency?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the relationship between the number of rotor poles and stator poles in Brushless DC (BLDC) motors and Permanent Magnet Synchronous Motors (PMSMs). Participants explore how these pole numbers affect motor efficiency and performance, with a focus on the implications of having unequal numbers of poles.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the relationship between rotor and stator pole numbers, noting that while equal numbers may lead to direct interactions, the implications of unequal numbers are unclear.
  • Another participant provides a resource that discusses the construction and operating principles of BLDC motors, suggesting it may clarify the topic.
  • A participant reflects on the need for rapid stator winding firing when rotor poles are increased, indicating that maintaining a specific angle between rotor and stator magnetic field vectors is crucial for torque production.
  • There is a query about the effect of increasing stator poles (e.g., from 6 to 12 or 18) on the number of magnetic field vectors and their alignment with the rotor's field.
  • One participant expresses uncertainty in the area but suggests that proper alignment between stator and rotor during firing is essential, regardless of the number of poles.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the relationship between rotor and stator pole numbers, and multiple competing views remain regarding their implications for motor efficiency and operation.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the specific effects of varying pole numbers and the necessary conditions for alignment, indicating a need for further exploration of the topic.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in the design and operation of BLDC motors, particularly those exploring the effects of rotor and stator pole configurations on motor performance.

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hi,
There is one thing that I do not understand and nor do I find any direct explanations for it.
Is there any relationship between no of rotor poles and no of stator poles in BLDC motor (or PM Synchronous Motor)? I have read somewhere there doesn't have to be. I can imagine if no of poles are same then each rotor pole would interact with stator pole. But it is difficult for me to imagine if the numbers are unequal.
Can somebody explain or point to any resource...

Thanks in advance.
aj
 
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Thanks meBigGuy for pointing to this page.
Although I have been to this page before, some how when I read it this time, I got slightly better idea what is going on. So it looks like if you have more rotor poles, you have to change the stator winding firing more rapidly than for less no of poles (feedback from hall/bEmf) so that rotor and stator magnetic field vectors have certain angle (I think is 90 degree) maintained between them, which produces the required torque.
But half part of my question is still open, let me rephrase, if we have six stator poles (2 poles per phase for 3phase motor) then we will have one stator magnetic field vector. What is we have more stator poles like 12, 18 will we have more than one mag field vectors to align with rotor's field.

Let me know what you think or have some other resource on this.
 
I'm not very strong in this area.

My assumption would be that you can have any relationship as long as there is proper alignment between the stator and rotor when the stator(s) is/are fired. (I'm thinking like a many legged Y or multiple Y's). I have not researched what is available.
 

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