How Do Velocity and Acceleration Vectors Behave in Projectile Motion?

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The discussion revolves around the behavior of velocity and acceleration vectors in the context of projectile motion. Participants explore the relationships between these vectors and their implications on the motion of a projectile.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Exploratory

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  • Participants discuss the tangential nature of velocity to the projectile's path and question why this is the case. They also inquire about the direction of acceleration and its relationship to displacement vectors. Some participants clarify that acceleration is only in the y-direction and explore the implications of this on the motion.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights into the nature of velocity and acceleration in projectile motion. Some guidance has been offered regarding the direction of acceleration and its constancy, while others are questioning the definitions and relationships of the vectors involved.

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There are mentions of neglecting air resistance and the distinction between projectile motion and other types of motion, such as simple kinematics. Participants also express caution regarding the application of these concepts to very small particles.

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I have a theory question I was wondering about. Today we learned that on a graph of projectile motion, velocity always acts tangent to the graph of the projectile. Why is is this?

Also, does acceleration always act down on a projectile? How do acceleration and displacement vectors act on a projectile?

Thanks
 
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Well, the velocity always have the direction of motion. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ferde_hajitas2.svg
This illustration from wikipedia actually pictures it very well. The x and y components of the velocity change as the ball moves along the line. The obvious relationship between them, determines the direction of the projectile. In the start, the y component is larger than the x, since it moves more upwards then sideways, but when reaches the middle, the x component get larger, and the y component drops. This relationship ensures that it is always tangential to the curve.

Yes, acceleration is always downwards the y-axis, if you neglect air resistance. The acceleration is due to gravity, and is always constant. You use this to determine the top point, your projectile can reach, before it starts falling. Since the acceleration is downwards, it makes the projectile lose more and more velocity as it rises.

I am not sure, what you mean with displacement vectors? A displacement vector points from your starting position to wherever the projectile is, as far as I am concerned.
 
So in this sort of graph then b would represent displacement because it is measuring distance from 0 and a would be acceleration because it is downward right?

b3sqvp.png
 
physicsnobrain said:
So in this sort of graph then b would represent displacement because it is measuring distance from 0 and a would be acceleration because it is downward right?

b3sqvp.png

this is a graph of the movement of a particle btw.
 
There is no acceleration in the x-direction. The acceleration is only in the y-direction, it has to point in the same direction as the y-axis. This is important, since if it didn't, what I explained above with the relationship between the x and y component of the acceleration, would not hold. At least, when you are talking projectile motion.

For the particle you show, it depends if it can accelerate on its own. Also don't confuse "particle" with anything small, since these laws actually don't hold for very small particles such as molecules and atoms. Do not think about it, just keep it in mind, since a lot of physics teachers make mistakes in these parts.
 
hjelmgart said:
There is no acceleration in the x-direction. The acceleration is only in the y-direction, it has to point in the same direction as the y-axis. This is important, since if it didn't, what I explained above with the relationship between the x and y component of the acceleration, would not hold. At least, when you are talking projectile motion.

For the particle you show, it depends if it can accelerate on its own. Also don't confuse "particle" with anything small, since these laws actually don't hold for very small particles such as molecules and atoms. Do not think about it, just keep it in mind, since a lot of physics teachers make mistakes in these parts.

Well judging off that graph I believe it can accelerate on its own.
 
physicsnobrain said:
Well judging off that graph I believe it can accelerate on its own.

Certainly, but then we aren't talking about the case of projectile motion, then it's just simple kinematics :-) but what it means, is that the particle can accelerate on its own.
 

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