How Do We Calculate Uncertainty in Quantum Operators?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the uncertainty in measuring quantum operators, specifically focusing on how this relates to observables and statistical analysis in quantum mechanics.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the distinction between measuring operators and observables, questioning the nature of uncertainty and its computation. Some express frustration with the clarity of the question and suggest that uncertainty may be tied to statistical methods or inherent properties of quantum states.

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There is an ongoing exploration of different interpretations regarding the measurement of uncertainty in quantum mechanics. Some participants have offered insights into statistical analysis and the relationship between uncertainty and the state of the system, while others have raised concerns about the formulation of the original question.

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Participants note the potential confusion in the wording of the question and the challenge of computing uncertainty without clear definitions or parameters. The discussion reflects a mix of theoretical concepts and practical measurement considerations in quantum mechanics.

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Homework Statement


How can we compute the error or uncertainty in measuring an operator O ?


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Technically, we don't measure the operator, but the observable. We measure whatever we've got instruments for, depending on the particularly chosen experimental set up. We can measure energy, wavelength, spin component, etc. As for the errors, this is statistical analysis. You record the numbers and then play with them.
 
This is definitely a very stupid exam question.
I just thought that there is some mathematical formula or that ΔO (uncertainty) is related somehow to Werner Heisenberg's uncertainty principle.
 
This is probably what you're looking for:

The uncertainty of an observable Q is:

[tex](\Delta Q)^2_{\psi}=\langle Q^2 \rangle_{\psi}-\langle Q \rangle^2_{\psi}[/tex]
 
o:)

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astrozilla said:
This is definitely a very stupid exam question.
I just thought that there is some mathematical formula or that ΔO (uncertainty) is related somehow to Werner Heisenberg's uncertainty principle.

It is stupid, because it's first of all poorly worded and then wrongly formulated. As i said above, we measure obervables, but we can't compute the errors, nor the any uncertainty. We can compute some statistical quantities, like mean square deviation, dispersion, mean, probability of an outcome, etc.
 
If you know what the state of the system is, you can calculate the uncertainty in an observable without making any measurements. The uncertainty is inherent to the state. In the case of the observable [itex]\hat{x}[/itex], for example, the uncertainty Δx simply characterizes the spatial extent of the wave function ψ(x).

You could, of course, take a bunch of identically prepared systems and perform the same measurement on each, and you would find that the spread in the results reveals this inherent uncertainty in the state.
 

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