I've been applying to work at various high schools in California and hoping to get a temporary permit because I'm not actually certificated. This makes me wonder something, however, especially considering that thread that came up about why the US educational system sucks. What does one need to do to become a HS teacher in various european countries (or really, anywhere else)? For teaching in california, to actually be a teacher, I need to have a certificate from a 2 year credentialing program, past the CBEST test, CSET tests, specific subject credentialing, and some other test I saw on a job posting. You could probably fill a page with all the tests teachers could take in order to simply teach! Is this non-sense the same anywhere else in the world? If someone had a PhD, they wouldn't be able to teach at a US high school without the stupid credential!