How Do You Calculate I_2 and I_4 Using Kirchoff's Rules?

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The discussion revolves around calculating currents I_2 and I_4 in a circuit using Kirchhoff's rules, with a given current I_1 of 1.6 A. Participants are exploring the application of the junction and loop rules in circuit analysis.

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  • Participants attempt to apply Kirchhoff's loop rule to determine I_2 and discuss the configuration of resistors in the circuit. Questions arise regarding whether resistors are in series or parallel and how to approach the calculation of I_4.

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Some participants have provided calculations for I_2, while others express uncertainty about the circuit configuration and the next steps for finding I_4. There is a mix of interpretations regarding the application of Kirchhoff's rules, and guidance has been offered to focus on the loop rule for further analysis.

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Participants note that the problem specifically asks for I_2 and I_4, without requiring the total resistance of the circuit. There is an ongoing discussion about the correct application of the rules given the circuit's complexity.

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[SOLVED] Using Kirchoff's Rules

Homework Statement



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In the circuit, I_1 = 1.6 A. Find the value of: (a) the current I_2 and (b) the current I_4.

Homework Equations



Junction Rule, Loop Rule, V=IR

The Attempt at a Solution



Small loop, top left:

2V + (2ohms)(I_2) - (4ohms)(1.6 A) = 0
(2 ohms)(I_2) - (6.4) = -2
2 ohms * I_2 = 4.4
I_2 = 2.2 A

That also means that the current in the entire circuit is 4.4 Amps.

...Right?

That is as far as I got. Assuming my answer for I_2 is correct, all I have to do is find I_4, which I am stumped on how to do. Should I combine the two resistors on the top left, since they're in series?

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The Attempt at a Solution

 
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Small loop, top left:(moving anti-clockwise)

[tex]2+ 4*1.6-2i_2=0[/tex]
[tex]i_2 =4.2 A[/tex]

Should I combine the two resistors on the top left, since they're in series?

I don't think any two resistors in this circuit are in series :redface:
 
So that means, I got something that *roughly* looks like the following:

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/7287/kirchoffeditck6.gif
(horrible MS paint editting by me)

So that means total I will be 5.8 (1.6 + 4.2).

Should I now do a loop rule for the whole circuit, calling the smaller loop Ir (where r is the total resistance of the right loop)? Then just solve for R using r and I?
 
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So that means, I got something that *roughly* looks like the following

No I don't think so. The resistances are neither in series nor parallel. You'll have to use KVL.
Should I now do a loop rule for the whole circuit, calling the smaller loop Ir (where r is the total resistance of the right loop)? Then just solve for R using r and I?

In the circuit, I_1 = 1.6 A. Find the value of: (a) the current I_2 and (b) the current I_4.

The question doesn't ask you to find R. Only [tex]i_2[/tex] and [tex]i_4[/tex]
Just use loop rule in lower big loop to find [tex]i_4[/tex] .
 
Thanks. Got it!

12 V - 4.2*2 - 3I_4 = 0

I_4 = 1.20 A
 

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