How Do You Calculate Kinetic Energy Changes in Rotational Motion?

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The discussion focuses on calculating kinetic energy changes in rotational motion, specifically using the formula KE(final)/KE(initial). Participants clarify that the correct relationship is w(final)/w(initial), which simplifies the understanding of energy conservation in rotational systems. Key concepts include the relationship between linear and angular velocity (v = rω) and the importance of torque in understanding force distribution across different radii. The conversation emphasizes the need to consider both initial and final radii when analyzing kinetic energy changes.

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Homework Statement



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Homework Equations



KE(final)/Ke(initial)


The Attempt at a Solution



1/2mv2/1/2mv2

v(final)2/v(initial)2

v= wr

r(initial)=? and r(final)=?

I originally thought the r's would cancel, but they don't because they're different. what to i do with them?
the corect answer is simply w(final)/w(initial), which is 3.3ish, but I want to understand how they got to that.
thanks.
 
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ok, so my understanding of this is kind of like a lever. You have a set amount of torque that is the same on both sides of the focal point. So Torque=Newtons x Distance. If one side is longer than the other (the professor with his arms out) the Newtons are smaller because the distance is great. while the shorter arm (professor with his arms in) has a shorter distance, meaning it will have greater force.
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so 1.5rad/s x D(initial)=5rad/s x D(final) ... that's what i got out of it
 
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Hi Noctix! Welcome to PF! :smile:

(have an omega: ω :wink:)
Noctix said:
I originally thought the r's would cancel, but they don't because they're different. what to i do with them?

ah, you haven't used conservation of https://www.physicsforums.com/library.php?do=view_item&itemid=313" (rv, = r2ω) …

use that, and you should get the correct result :smile:

(and to account for the change in energy … ie, where did the energy come from or go to? … think about the https://www.physicsforums.com/library.php?do=view_item&itemid=75" :wink:)
 
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