How Do You Calculate Pressure Difference and Upward Force on an Airplane Wing?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the pressure difference and upward force on an airplane wing, specifically using the speeds of air flowing over the wing's surfaces. The subject area includes fluid dynamics and the application of Bernoulli's principle in the context of lift generation in aviation.

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  • Participants discuss the application of Bernoulli's equation to find the pressure difference and upward force. Some express confusion about the correct interpretation and application of the equation, while others question the assumptions made regarding the analysis of lift.

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There is ongoing exploration of the problem, with some participants providing equations and insights while others seek clarification on specific terms and concepts. A few have indicated they found understanding through private messages, but overall, there is no explicit consensus on the best approach to the problem.

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Participants note that the analysis of lift may be more complex than simply applying Bernoulli's equation, suggesting that assumptions about height differences and the role of pressure may need further examination.

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Question: a) Find the pressure difference on an airplane wing where air flows over the upper surface with a speed of 110 m/s and along the bottom surface with a speed of 105 m/s. _____Pa

b) if the area of the wing is 20m^2, what is the net upward force exerted on the wing? ______N

Can anyone tell me what equations to use for this problem?
 
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whoknows123 said:
Question: a) Find the pressure difference on an airplane wing where air flows over the upper surface with a speed of 110 m/s and along the bottom surface with a speed of 105 m/s. _____Pa

b) if the area of the wing is 20m^2, what is the net upward force exerted on the wing? ______N

Can anyone tell me what equations to use for this problem?
You are expected to use Bernouilli's equation:

P_1 + \frac{1}{2}\rho v_1^2 = P_2 + \frac{1}{2}\rho v_2^2

The problem is that this is probably not the correct way to analyse the lift. It is more complicated than Bernouilli. There is still scientific debate over the physics of airplane lift.

AM
 
whoknows123 said:
Question: a) Find the pressure difference on an airplane wing where air flows over the upper surface with a speed of 110 m/s and along the bottom surface with a speed of 105 m/s. _____Pa

b) if the area of the wing is 20m^2, what is the net upward force exerted on the wing? ______N

Can anyone tell me what equations to use for this problem?
Bernouilli's equation {v^2 \over 2} + g h + {p \over \rho} = constant. Assuming that the difference of height plays a negligible role, you can use the two speeds and the density of air to find the difference of pressure (notice that the higher the speed, the smaller the pressure is which is good since the speed of the air flow is larger on the top of the wing!). For the second part, you need to use that force is pressure times area, so the difference of force is the difference of pressure times the area (again, you should see easily why the net force is upward).

Patrick
 
so what exactly do i do, what is P suppose to be?
 
ok, I'm confused.
 
can someone explain step by step? I reallly don't understand this topic.
 
nevermind, thanks nrqed, i got it =)
 
whoknows123 said:
nevermind, thanks nrqed, i got it =)
Am glad I could help.

Just for the benefit of others: I had sent this private message to the OP:


The sum of the three terms is constant means that it has the same value above and below the wing. Neglecting the gh term, you get

{1 \over 2} v_{top}^2 + {P_{top} \over \rho} = {1 \over 2} v_{bottom}^2 + {P_{bottom} \over \rho}

Just solve for (P_bottom - P_top) (this should be positive since there is a net force upward on the wing so the pressure on the bottom should be larger than on the top). That's the pressure difference you are looking for.

Hope this helps.

Patrick
 
Is that Bernoulli's equation? The one in my book is different.
 
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akoma714 said:
Is that Bernoulli's equation? The one in my book is different.

This thread's over a year old, plus it's not clear which post you're talking about. If you have a specific question, feel free to start a new thread in the appropriate forum.
 

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