How Do You Calculate Spring Compression and Cart Speed After Collision?

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a dynamics cart colliding with a spring bumper, focusing on calculating the maximum compression of the spring and the cart's speed at a specific compression. The subject area includes concepts from mechanics, particularly energy conservation and spring dynamics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of energy conservation principles, questioning the accuracy of their calculations and the book's provided answers. There is an exploration of potential errors in reasoning regarding kinetic and potential energy relationships.

Discussion Status

Some participants express agreement with the original poster's calculations, while others suggest that the book's answer may be incorrect. The discussion reflects differing interpretations of the energy equations involved, with no clear consensus on the correct approach yet established.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating potential discrepancies between their calculations and the textbook answers, indicating a need for clarity on the assumptions made regarding energy states during the collision.

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Homework Statement


A 1.2 kg dynamics cart is rolling to the right along a horizontal lab desk at 3.6 m/s, when it collides head on with a spring bumper that has a spring constant of 2.00 * 10^2 N/m.

a) Determine the maximum compression of the spring
b) Determine the speed of the cart at the moment that the spring was compressed by 0.10 m.


Homework Equations


E mechanical = E potential + E kinetic
E kinetic = 1/2 m v^2
E elastic = 1/2 k x^2
E gravitational = mgh


The Attempt at a Solution



a) I got 0.28 m, and the book agrees.

b) The answer should be 1.3 m/s. Here's what I get:

Eg is constant, because the height doesn't change. Equal is:

Et = Ee + Ek

In the previous solution, i set Ee2 + 0 = Ek1 + 0 since before there is no elastic energy and afterwards there is no kinetic energy

So Et = 1/2 * 2 * 10 ^2 N/m * 0.28 ^ 2 m ^2 = 7.84 joules

Et - Ee = Ek

7.84 J - 1/2 * 2 * 10^2 N/m * 0.10^2 m^2 = Ek = 6.84 J

1/2 * 1.2 kg * v^2 = 6.84 J

sqrt(6.84 / 1.2 kg / 0.5) = v^2 = 11.4 m^2 / s^2

Square rooted I get 3.4 m/s

The book says I'm doing b wrong, but I don't understand what I did wrong, or if the book is wrong.
 
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I'm getting the same answer as you.
 
x86 said:
Square rooted I get 3.4 m/s

The book says I'm doing b wrong, but I don't understand what I did wrong, or if the book is wrong.

Hello !

Do not worry. You are correct and if book does not concur with you, its wrong.

I get 3.36 m/s which is approximately same as your answer.
 
Fwiw, you can get the book answer by making the mistake of setting the KE equal to the PE when the spring is compressed .1 m.
 

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