How Do You Calculate Temperature at a Depth Based on Surface Conduction Rates?

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The problem involves calculating the temperature at a depth of 35 km based on surface conduction rates, given specific values for energy conduction and thermal conductivity. The context is rooted in thermal physics and heat transfer principles.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply the conduction rate formula but expresses confusion regarding the area variable, A, and its assumed value in the context of the problem. Other participants question the implications of choosing different values for A and discuss the relationship between area and power in the formula.

Discussion Status

The discussion is exploring the implications of the area variable in the conduction formula. Some participants provide guidance on unit consistency and the interpretation of the formula, while others express confusion about the assumptions made regarding the area.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem does not specify the area for which the conduction rate is calculated, leading to uncertainty about the assumptions made in the solution process.

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Homework Statement


The average rate at which energy is conducted outward through the ground surface in North America is 54 mW/m^2, and the average thermal conductivity of the near-surface rocks is 2.5 W/mK. Assuming a surface temperature of 10 C, find the temperature at a depth of 35 km. Ignore the heat generated by the presence of radioactive elements.


Homework Equations


P = kA(Th-Tc)/L

where P is the conduction rate
k = thermal conductivity
A = face area
L = thickness
Th = temperature of hot reservoir
Tc = temperature of cold reservoir

The Attempt at a Solution



I can plug all values into the equation for conduction rate except for A. Is there something I'm missing in terms of the surface area for this problem? In the answers I've seen online, people seem to assume A is 1m^2. However, I can't figure out why that assumption is made. (The answer seems to be 766 C, which is found using A=1m^2).

Thanks for your help!
 
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You could apply the formula to any area you like.
But if you are going to use the 54 mW/m^2 you must express A in m^2 as well.
In the old days we used to put in the units for all quantities and check to make sure they worked out the same on both sides of a formula. That took too much time, but when in doubt, it is still worth doing occasionally.
 
But if we had arbitrarily chosen an A of 2 m^2, wouldn't the answer to this question be different? The only quantity that would change in the equation would be A, no? I'm confused because the problem doesn't seem to tell you how large of an area we're considering, whereas the solution seems to automatically use a value of 1 m^2.
 
Oops, I gave you a dumb answer!
When you work out the units on the right side, taking k to be in W/mK, you get Watts.
That formula is giving you the power, not the power per square meter as the wording of the question implies. It is only natural that if you double the area, you get double the power flowing through.

Mix up in formulas? The formula is given as ΔQ/ΔT = kA*ΔT here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_conductivity#Equations
 

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