How Do You Calculate Tension and Acceleration in a Rotating Cylinder System?

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The problem involves a uniform solid cylinder rotating on a frictionless axle with two equal masses hanging from cords wrapped around it. The original poster seeks to determine the tension in the cords and the acceleration of the masses after descending a certain distance.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to relate torque, tension, and acceleration using various equations but expresses uncertainty about the correctness of their approach. Some participants question the movement of the masses given their equal weights, while others clarify the setup involving separate cords.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the relationships between the forces and torques involved. There is acknowledgment of the need to clarify the assumptions regarding the motion of the masses and the implications of having two separate cords.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem may involve constant acceleration, and there is a lack of consensus on the implications of the equal masses on their movement. The original poster also mentions uncertainty about the answers not being available in the textbook.

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Homework Statement


A uniform, solid cylinder of mass M and radius R rotates on a frictionless horizontal axle. Two equal masses hang from light/weightless cords wrapped around the cylinder. If the system is released from rest, find:
A. The tension in each cord.
B. The acceleration of each mass after the masses have descended a distance of H.


Homework Equations


Torque=T(tension)R
Torque=I x Alpha
T=mg-ma
T=Torque/R
Alpha=A(tangential)\R
I=((1/2)mr^2)


The Attempt at a Solution


Based on the relevant equations, I deduced that the tangential acceleration is the downwards acceleration since it is perpendicular to the radius. Combining equations as follows I retrieved my findings for a.
T=(I x Alpha)\R
TR=(I x Alpha)
TR=(Ia)\R
TR^2=Ia
(TR^2)\I=a
(TR^2)\((1\2)mr^2)=a
(2T)\m=a

I don't know what the answer is as it is not in the back of the book nor was it given during class so I don't know how far or close I am to the answer. If I'm right, let me know. If I'm wrong, it would be greatly appreciated if you could show me where I went wrong or if I was forgetting something.
 
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Hmm I'm wondering why nobody answered me and also a quick comment:
I'm not sure if this acceleration would be constant or not..
 
If two masses are equal why will they move at all?
 
the two equal masses are hanging from the big mass
 
The cylinder (Mass M) is rotating on a fixed axis and the equal masses are connected at the ends of a rope wrapped around the cylinder. So why should the masses move. If the masses were unequal, the heavier one would move down.
 
they aren't attached to the same cord
 
there are two separate cords
 
In that case what you have done is basically correct except that there are two cords carrying equal weights, hence equal tensions T. Net torque on the cylinder will be 2TR and the relation will be 4T/M = a. Solve this one and mg - T = Ma to get T and a. a will be constant. Is B) finding acceleration or is it velocity?
 
B was finding acceleration which was what my attempt was because I found T via the relevant questions.
 

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