How Do You Calculate Tensions T1 and T2 in a Balanced Suspended Plank?

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The problem involves calculating the tensions T1 and T2 in a balanced suspended plank, with a focus on the forces and moments acting on the system. The context includes the application of torque and force equations to analyze the equilibrium of the system.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the use of torque equations to find vertical components of tension and question the necessity of knowing angles to determine horizontal components. There is an exploration of the implications of the balance of forces and moments.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the limitations of the information given. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need for angles to fully resolve the tension components, and there is acknowledgment of differing interpretations of the problem's completeness.

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There is a noted concern about the potential for missing information in the problem statement, particularly regarding the angles of the tensions, which affects the ability to fully analyze the situation.

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Homework Statement



The object is balance. Calculate T1 and T2. (yes, this plus the diagram is really the entirety of the question)

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Homework Equations



Στ = 0
τ = F⋅r
F = mg

The Attempt at a Solution



First, we treat the left side as a fixed point and solve for the vertical component of T2

Στ = 0
20⋅9.8⋅1 + 10⋅9.8⋅1.5 - 2T2y = 0
343 = 2T2y
T2y = 171.5

Next, we treat the right side as fixed and solve for the vertical component of of T1
Στ = 0
0.5⋅10⋅9.8 + 1⋅20⋅9.8 - 2⋅T1Y = 0
245 = 2T1Y
T1Y = 122.5

To verify, we check that the sum of the forces up should equal the sum of the forces down
T1Y + T2Y = 20*9.8 + 10 * 9.8
171.5 + 122.5 = 196 + 98
294 = 294

And this is the point where I get stuck. As far as I can tell, the situation is balanced for all cases where the force left due to T1 is equal to the force right due to T2, meaning you have everything from the case where both wires are vertical (and thus the x-components of their tension is zero) to the case where both are nearly horizontal (and the x-components of both approach infinity) being true.

What am I missing?
 
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Unless you know the angles which T1 and T2 make with the horizontal, you can't work out the horizontal components of the tension.
Writing the moment equation can only give you the vertical component of the tensions.
 
Thank you! That's what I told my student, but she seemed doubtful that an official question would have a misprint like that. Nice to hear that I'm not just missing something obvious.
 
SteamKing said:
Unless you know the angles which T1 and T2 make with the horizontal, you can't work out the horizontal components of the tension.
... except that, knowing one angle would do.
 

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