How Do You Calculate the Area Under a Complex Function?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the area under a complex function, specifically the function given by y = (100(2x+1)(5 - x))/(x^2 -6x+23)^(5/2). Participants are exploring methods to find the integral necessary for calculating this area, while also referencing related functions and previous questions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss various approaches to integrating the function, including the use of trigonometric substitution and completing the square. There are questions about the validity of integrating the numerator and denominator separately, and some participants express uncertainty about their calculations.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of different integration techniques, with some participants suggesting trigonometric substitution and others questioning the assumptions made in the setup. While guidance has been offered regarding the integration process, there is no explicit consensus on the best approach yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the methods they are familiar with. There is also a mention of needing to provide answers to four significant figures, adding to the complexity of the problem.

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i am struggling with this question for quite few days now and i am nowhere near to an appropriate solution.

The previous ( related) question were regarding the the function
g(x)= 5+9x-2x^2 /(x^2 -6x+23)^3/2.

i have found the derivatives, the stationary point and also to classify them as local maximum and minimum which aare at x=-1/2 and x=5 .

this is the final question which i am struggling with

find the area bounded by the graph
y= (100(2x+1)(5 - x))/(x^2 -6x+23)^(5/2)
and below the x-axis. give your answer to four significant question.

I am only struggling to find the integral so i can calculate the area by myself.
so far i have found the integral of the numerator to be
100(2x+1)(5-x)
100(5+9x-2x^2)
500x+450x^2-(200/2)x^3

for the denominator i have found 2/7(x^2 -6x+23)^7/2 but i am pretty sure this is wrong.

thank you for the help.
 
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hi fatou123! :smile:

(try using the X2 icon just above the Reply box :wink:)
fatou123 said:
… so far i have found the integral of the numerator to be
100(2x+1)(5-x)
100(5+9x-2x^2)
500x+450x^2-(200/2)x^3

i assume you mean (200/3)? :wink:
for the denominator i have found 2/7(x^2 -6x+23)^7/2 but i am pretty sure this is wrong.

sure is! :smile:

i] you cannot integrate a fraction by integrating the top and bottom separately

(it doesn't even begin to work …forget about it)​

ii] you'll need to simplify the bottom first …

either complete the square or susbtitute u = x - 3 :smile:
 
thank you .

after completing the square for the bottom i end up with this.

y= 100(2x+1)(5-x)
((x-3)^2 -3^2) +23)^5/2)

do i have to do the integral by part ?
 
fatou123 said:
do i have to do the integral by part ?

difficult to see how :confused:

try a trig substitution instead (always useful when there's a square inside a square-root) :smile:
 
thank you again tiny tim i think i am starting to crack it with a little help well a big one to be honest !
so i gather that the trig substitution might be of the form

sqrt a^2 +b^2 x^2 x=a/b tan(theta)
so far i found the denominator to be to be sqrt((x-3)^2-14)^5) and i think by using the indice rule you get to sqrt((x-3)-14)^3 for the denominator. where u=(x-3) and du=3dx
 
fatou123 said:
i am struggling with this question for quite few days now and i am nowhere near to an appropriate solution.

The previous ( related) question were regarding the the function
g(x)= 5+9x-2x^2 /(x^2 -6x+23)^3/2.

i have found the derivatives, the stationary point and also to classify them as local maximum and minimum which aare at x=-1/2 and x=5 .

this is the final question which i am struggling with

find the area bounded by the graph
y= (100(2x+1)(5 - x))/(x^2 -6x+23)^(5/2)
and below the x-axis. give your answer to four significant question.

I am only struggling to find the integral so i can calculate the area by myself.
so far i have found the integral of the numerator to be
100(2x+1)(5-x)
100(5+9x-2x^2)
500x+450x^2-(200/2)x^3

for the denominator i have found 2/7(x^2 -6x+23)^7/2 but i am pretty sure this is wrong.

thank you for the help.
Do you mean g(x) = 5 + 9x - [2x^2/(x^2 - 6x + 23)^(3/2)]
which is actually what your formula says when parsed using standard rules, or do you mean g(x) = (5 + 9x - 2x^2)/(x^2 - 6x + 23)^(3/2)? If you mean the latter, you need to use brackets.

RGV
 
soz i meant g(x) = (5 + 9x - 2x^2)/((x^2 - 6x + 23)^(3/2)).

i still haven't learn how to do integral by substitution with trigonometry yet.
 
hifatou123! :smile:

(try using the X2 icon just above the Reply box :wink:)

without trig substitution, you'll need to write it out as

A/√(x2 - 6x + 23) + B(x-3)/√(x2 - 6x + 23) + C/(√(x2 - 6x + 23))3

and then integrate each part separately :wink:
 

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