How Do You Calculate the Dissolution Time of a Corroding Metal Sphere?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the dissolution time of a corroding metal sphere, focusing on the relationship between corrosion rate and the mathematical model presented in a referenced article. Participants explore the equations governing the dissolution process and seek clarification on specific constants and their meanings.

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  • One participant seeks help understanding how to calculate the dissolution time of a sphere undergoing constant corrosion, referencing an article that provides a mathematical solution.
  • Another participant explains that the corrosion rate coefficient relates to the mass loss rate, suggesting that the instantaneous rate of mass loss can be expressed as ##\dot m =cA##, where A is the surface area.
  • A different participant clarifies that the constant A in the article's equations is not the surface area but rather a constant in the solution to the differential equation governing the mass loss.
  • There is a suggestion that A might be related to another variable k, but the exact relationship remains unclear, leading to further questions about the definitions used in the article.
  • One participant proposes that it may be more efficient to derive a solution independently rather than relying on the article, indicating a potential lack of clarity in the original source.

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Participants express differing views on the interpretation of the constant A and its relationship to the surface area and the corrosion rate. The discussion remains unresolved, with no consensus on how to relate these variables.

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There are limitations in the discussion regarding the definitions of variables and the assumptions underlying the equations presented in the article. Participants express uncertainty about the physical meaning of the constants involved.

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Hello All

I could get some help I would greatly appreciate it.

I am trying to figure how to calculate the dissolution time of sphere undergoing constant corrosion at a rate
of corrosion.

Through a little google-fu, I found an article which gives me the solution ( http://arxiv.org/pdf/1208.5925.pdf )
but I am having trouble understanding the proof.

In this article there is a dissolving sphere

From this article we know that

the mass of the sphere is equal to dm/dt = -c*s(m) (1

and the general solution is

m(t)=mo - A*(mo^2/3)*t + (1/3)*(A^2)*(mo^(1/3))*(t^2) -1/27*(A^3)*(t^3)
or

m(t) = (a-k*t)^3
a = initial mass = (mo)^1/3
k = (A/3).

The article then gives an example where

mo = initial mass = 10 grams
p = density = 0.8 mg/mm^2
c = corrosion rate = -0.003 mg/(s*mm^2)

I am having difficulty understanding how to relate the rate of corrosion c to A.

I know that c = (dm/dt)/s(m)

The article shows a series of graphs for Mass, Radius, SA, and Volume vs time.

I copied these graphs into excel and add used excel to find a trendline.

m(t) = -2E-07*t^3 + 0.0002*t^2 - 0.079t+ 9.9879

By plugging values into the trend line above I was able to find a solution to

A = 0.0173.

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However, do not understand how to relate A to c(-0.003).

Some help would be greatly appreciated.
 

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corrosion rate coefficient is given as a number c milligrams of mass dissolved per second from each square millimeter of surface area.
Therefore, an object with surface area A square millimeters will have an instantaneous rate of mass loss of ##\dot m =cA## milligrams per second.
You know how to find the surface area of a solid sphere from it's mass and density right?
 
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Hello Simon,

Thank you very much for your response.

Maybe I am not fully understanding your answer.

The A, I am trying to find is not the surface area of the sphere but rather a constant found in the solution to

dm/dt = -c*s(m) = -c*4πi*(3m/(4πi*ρ)^(2/3) (equation 1)

where the solution to the equation listed above is

m(t)=mo - A*(mo^2/3)*t + (1/3)*(A^2)*(mo^(1/3))*(t^2) -1/27*(A^3)*(t^3) (equation 2)

which simplifies to

m(t) = (mo^(1/3) - (A/3)t)^(1/3) (equation 3)

Where A is constant. Maybe I am wrong here, but I do not believe that A equation 2 and 3 is equal to the surfaces area of the sphere.

Am I wrong here?

If I am only given the density, rate of corrosion, and diameter of sphere, how would I go about finding equation 3.

Thank you very much for your help.
 
Then you need to identify what physical property the article is using the letter A to stand for. So far you have A=3k ... but that begs the question: what is k? (Though it is possible that A is just the constant of integration...)
Either that - or discard the article and work out your own solution.
The second is probably faster... I've already done it: took me a couple of minutes but then, I've had practise.
 
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