How Do You Calculate the Position Vector of a Moving Particle?

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The problem involves calculating the position vector of a particle moving at a constant speed in a specified direction. The particle's initial position vector is given, and the task is to determine its position after a certain time interval based on its velocity vector derived from its speed and direction.

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  • Participants discuss the concept of unit vectors and their application in determining the direction of motion. There are questions about how to derive the unit vector from the given vector and how to apply it to find the new position of the particle. Some participants explore the relationship between distance traveled and the direction of motion.

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Participants are actively engaging with the concepts of unit vectors and displacement vectors. Some have expressed understanding of the basic principles, while others are seeking clarification on the application of these concepts to the problem at hand. There appears to be a productive exchange of ideas regarding the calculations involved.

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There is an ongoing discussion about the interpretation of the problem, particularly regarding the distinction between displacement vectors and position vectors. Some participants are also reflecting on the clarity of the initial problem statement and the assumptions made in the calculations.

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A particle P is moving with a const. speed of 6m/s in a direction 2î - j - 2k. When t=0, P is at a point with position vector 3i + 4 j -7k. Find the position vector of P after (1) t seconds
(2) 4 seconds.
The solutionnstates that ' change the particle speed is constant and is a long text direction and its velocity is also constant velocity can be written as v vector = 6( v cap)
Where v cap is the unit vector in the direction 2i -j -2k. Thus,
v vector= 6 (2i -j -2k)/(√(2 sq + 1 sq + 2 sq)) = 4i -2j -4k.'
Please explain what the solution stated. :(
(It is not the complete solution, there's more; but still)
 
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See, i do know what a unit vector is, but i don't know how to find a unit vector. I had thought that unit vector could be calculated by ' vector/ magnitude of vector ' but here i can't understand how it has been applied. :/
 
Right, a unit vector is "vector / magnitude of vector" which means that (if you think about it,) all it represents is a direction
(just like "i hat" or "j hat" or "k hat")

In this problem you want to find the change in the (coordinates of the) position of the particle.

Now it's clear that the object has gone 6 meters, right? If they asked you, "how far does an object going 6 m/s travel in one second" you would say, "wow, that was an easy question," right?

The tricky part about the problem is that this 6 meters is not parallel to any axis, so finding the new coordinates is not as simple as "add 6 meters"

But we can use this idea of a unit vector to find the new coordinates. We multiply the distance (of 6 meters) by the direction, ("v hat") and add it to our original position (just like we would if it was in the direction of "i hat" or "j hat" instead)

The formula "vector / magnitude of vector" just gives us a convenient way to convert the "v hat" direction into the directions of the axes ("i hat" and "j hat" and "k hat")
(That formula tells you "v hat" in terms of the other directions, so you can just multiply by "v hat" and add to the initial position like normal)


Did this help?


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I kept calling it "hat" whereas you called it "cap"
 
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kay said:
See, i do know what a unit vector is, but i don't know how to find a unit vector. I had thought that unit vector could be calculated by ' vector/ magnitude of vector ' but here i can't understand how it has been applied. :/

Where v cap is the unit vector in the direction 2i -j -2k. Thus,
v vector= 6 (2i -j -2k)/(√(2 sq + 1 sq + 2 sq)) = 4i -2j -4k.'
Isn't that exactly what you said above?
 
Nathanael said:
Right, a unit vector is "vector / magnitude of vector" which means that (if you think about it,) all it represents is a direction
(just like "i hat" or "j hat" or "k hat")

In this problem you want to find the change in the (coordinates of the) position of the particle.

Now it's clear that the object has gone 6 meters, right? If they asked you, "how far does an object going 6 m/s travel in one second" you would say, "wow, that was an easy question," right?

The tricky part about the problem is that this 6 meters is not parallel to any axis, so finding the new coordinates is not as simple as "add 6 meters"

But we can use this idea of a unit vector to find the new coordinates. We multiply the distance (of 6 meters) by the direction, ("v hat") and add it to our original position (just like we would if it was in the direction of "i hat" or "j hat" instead)

The formula "vector / magnitude of vector" just gives us a convenient way to convert the "v hat" direction into the directions of the axes ("i hat" and "j hat" and "k hat")
(That formula tells you "v hat" in terms of the other directions, so you can just multiply by "v hat" and add to the initial position like normal)Did this help?Edit:
I kept calling it "hat" whereas you called it "cap"

Yes Nathaniel, it helped a lot, thank you so much. :D
And another thing, you said:
'We multiply the distance of 6m by the direction v cap'
So one can find out the vector by multiplying the magnitude and the (unit vector of) direction as given in the question?
 
kay said:
So one can find out the vector by multiplying the magnitude and the (unit vector of) direction as given in the question?

Yes, exactly. One can find the 'displacement vector' by multiplying the magnitude of the displacement and the (unit vector of the) direction.

(But of course the question didn't ask for the 'displacement vector', it asked for the new 'position vector'; so you must add the 'displacement vector' with the 'initial position vector' to get the answer)
 
Yes. Thank you so much. :)
 

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