How do I show that 2 moving objects collide?

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The discussion revolves around determining the conditions under which two moving objects, a boat and a branch, collide. The participants are exploring the mathematical representation of their positions over time using vector equations.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss setting the positions of the boat and branch equal to each other to find collision points. They explore the implications of different starting positions and the need to separate vector components into scalar equations. There is also mention of graphing the positions to visually confirm potential collisions.

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The discussion is active, with participants offering guidance on how to approach the problem. Some have attempted to factor equations and are reflecting on their mistakes, while others are questioning the validity of their methods and considering different interpretations of the problem.

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Participants are working with specific equations and vector representations, and there is an acknowledgment of potential errors in their calculations. The nature of the homework question is to "show that they collide," which influences their approach to the problem.

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Homework Statement
We have a boat sailing at a uniform acceleration of (4i, +2j) from the origin, and a branch floating at a uniform velocity of (-4i, +j) starting from position (16i, +2j). Show that they collide, and give the time of the collision
Relevant Equations
1. d=ut+1/2(at^2)
2. v^2=u^2+2ad
3. v=u+at
4. d=t(u+v)/2
They collide when their positions are the same, so I plugged the information for the boat into equation 1 to get an expression for d which is (2i, +j)t^2

Then I used equation 4 to get an expression for d for the branch, which is (-4i, +j)t

I would need to take into account the different starting position for the branch by subtracting it from the branch side

So they collide when (2i, +j)t^2 = (-4i, +j)t - )16i, +2j)

I then tried to factorise it, and this is where I got stuck!
 
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SueJ said:
by subtracting it from the branch side
Have another think about that.
SueJ said:
I then tried to factorise
Don’t forget that a 2D vector equation is really two scalar equations. Try writing them separately.
 
yep, you are right, thanks - ADD it to the branch side.
I did try separating the i and the j so I ended up with 2 quadratics - the one for i did factorise fine, the j one didnt - I may have made a mistake obviously - did you try it, and if so, did it factorise?
In order to SHOW that they collide, I just drew a graph of the postion of boat and branch at increasing t just to show that they cross - is this what would be expected for the question 'show that they collide'?
 
haruspex said:
Have another think about that.

Don’t forget that a 2D vector equation is really two scalar equations. Try writing them separately.
oh yes I did make a mistake and I got the same t for both I and j this time, thanks
 
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