How Do You Calculate the Resonance Energy for CO2 Using Hess's Law?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the resonance energy for carbon dioxide (CO2) using Hess's Law. Participants explore various approaches to derive the resonance energy from given enthalpy values, bond dissociation energies, and combustion data, while grappling with the complexities of enthalpy changes and resonance structures.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express confusion about how to formulate an equation using Hess's Law to include resonance energy.
  • One participant suggests drawing an energy diagram and compares bond dissociation enthalpies with the heat of combustion, noting that bond dissociation does not account for electron delocalization in CO2.
  • Another participant proposes two paths to produce CO2 and calculates the resonance energy as the difference in enthalpy of formation, but finds discrepancies with the expected answer.
  • A later reply critiques the bond dissociation energy value used for C=O, suggesting it is too low and should be closer to 732 kJ/mol.
  • Some participants question the definition of resonance energy in the context of CO2, suggesting that the energy lowering is primarily due to delocalized pi electrons rather than just resonance structures.
  • One participant attempts to relate resonance energy to the bond dissociation energy of CO and O2, expressing uncertainty about their approach.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the correct method to calculate resonance energy for CO2, and multiple competing views and interpretations of resonance energy remain present throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations in their calculations, including the use of bond dissociation energies and the need for clarity on the definitions of resonance energy and enthalpy changes.

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Homework Statement


The question says that:
Calculate the resonance energy for CO2 from the following
ΔH(C=O)=339 kJ/mol
ΔH(O=O)=498kJ/mol
ΔH(C(s)→C(g))=718kJ/mol
ΔHcombustion
(carbon)=-393kJ/mol.

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The Attempt at a Solution


I am completely unable to understand how will we make an equation using hess' law including this resonance energy.
 
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mooncrater said:

Homework Statement


The question says that:
Calculate the resonance energy for CO2 from the following
ΔH(C=O)=339 kJ/mol
ΔH(O=O)=498kJ/mol
ΔH(C(s)→C(g))=718kJ/mol
ΔHcombustion
(carbon)=-393kJ/mol.

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The Attempt at a Solution


I am completely unable to understand how will we make an equation using hess' law including this resonance energy.

Try drawing an energy diagram, using the enthalpies. You have a number of different kinds of enthalpies here. The first two are bond dissociation enthalpies:

C=O ----> C (g) + O (g)

The gistof the problem is to compare the energies using bond dissociation enthalpies (approximate) and the heat of combustion of C (g) (exact). The former, does not take into account the delocalization of electrons over the entire CO2 frame, while the latter does.
 
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Hmmm...so after reading your post what I did is:
Consider two paths to produce CO2:
C(S)→C(g) which can be converted into CO2 by the following two methods(what I made out):
  1. C(g)→CO2[combustion]
  2. C(g)+O2→CO2
And the resonance energy should be the difference of the enthalpy of formation of CO2...
So heat of combustion given is -393 kJ/mol + heat of sublimation ----(for 1st path)=325 kJ/mol
And for the second part:
BDE (O=O)-2BDE(C=O)+ Heat of sublimation.=538 kJ/mol
And their difference=-213 kJ /mol
But the answer given is -913 kJ/mol.
So where am I wrong?
 
mooncrater said:
Hmmm...so after reading your post what I did is:
Consider two paths to produce CO2:
C(S)→C(g) which can be converted into CO2 by the following two methods(what I made out):
  1. C(g)→CO2[combustion]
  2. C(g)+O2→CO2
And the resonance energy should be the difference of the enthalpy of formation of CO2...
So heat of combustion given is -393 kJ/mol + heat of sublimation ----(for 1st path)=325 kJ/mol
And for the second part:
BDE (O=O)-2BDE(C=O)+ Heat of sublimation.=538 kJ/mol
And their difference=-213 kJ /mol
But the answer given is -913 kJ/mol.
So where am I wrong?

Here are the steps that I would use in making the ladder of enthalpies:

C(s) [+ O2 (g) ] --> C (g) [ + O2 (g) ]
O=O (g) --> 2 O (g) (Use bond enthalpy O=O)
C(s) + O2 (g) --> CO2 (g)
CO2 (g) --> C (g) + 2 O (g) (2 x bond enthalpy C=O)

The number you have for C=O is way too small (it is the value for a C-O single bond) it should be closer to 732 kJ/mol http://wps.prenhall.com/wps/media/objects/4678/4790506/ch07_02.htm

Create a ladder of species on an enthalpy scale. Compare the enthalpies for C(s) + O2 (g) --> CO2 (g) from the enthalpy of combustion with the enthalpy using the heat of subblimation and the bond enthalpies.
 
CO + 1/2 O2 → CO2
So I think resonance energy of CO2 should be bond dissociation energy of CO + 1/2 bond dissociation energy of O2 ?
I may be wrong here, but what wrong I am doing?
 
Raghav Gupta said:
CO + 1/2 O2 → CO2
So I think resonance energy of CO2 should be bond dissociation energy of CO + 1/2 bond dissociation energy of O2 ?
I may be wrong here, but what wrong I am doing?

The "resonance energy" is a bit of a misnomer in the case of CO2. Sure, you have resonance structures with different kinds of mulitple bonds
(triple-single <--> double-double <--> single-triple), but most of the energy lowering is due to the fact that the pi electrons are in orbitals delocalized over the entire molecule, which is not there if you think only about the Lewis stuctures -- where you would draw two p-pi bonds in planes at right angles to each other.
 
So what is that energy that I am talking in post 5?
 

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