How Do You Calculate the Slope of a Curve at a Point?

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The original poster is attempting to find the slope of the curve defined by the function y = x/(3x + 2) at the point where x = -2. The problem involves understanding the limit definition of the slope of a curve and how to apply it to this specific function.

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  • Participants discuss the limit definition of the slope and the challenges of applying it directly. Some suggest that the quotient rule could simplify the process, while others emphasize the importance of understanding the definition itself. There are questions about the algebraic manipulation needed to proceed with the limit.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing various insights and suggestions for approaching the problem. Some have offered algebraic techniques to manipulate the expressions involved, while others are focused on clarifying the conceptual underpinnings of the limit definition.

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One participant notes that differentiation rules are not yet introduced in their textbook, indicating a focus on foundational concepts rather than established methods. This may influence the approaches discussed in the thread.

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Homework Statement


Find the slope of the curve [itex]y=\frac{x}{3x+2}[/itex] at the point x = -2.

Homework Equations


[tex] \lim_{h \rightarrow 0}\frac{f(x_{0} + h) - f(x_{0})}{h} = m[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution


If x = -2, then y = 1/2. I'm not sure what to do from here.

This is the first step, but I don't get how you obtain this:
[tex] \lim_{h \rightarrow 0}\frac{\frac{-2+h}{3(-2+h)+2}-\frac{1}{2}}{h}[/tex]

I just need an explanation of what we're doing here and why?

Thanks in advance for the help!
 
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This would be very difficult to get from the definition of a limit. You probably have something called the quotient rule that will help greatly
 
The differentiation rules aren't introduced for another one and a half chapters in my textbook. This part is introducing a definition to the slope of a curve. It says:

The slope of a curve C at a point P is the slope of the tangent line to C at P if such a tangent line exists. In particular, the slope of the graph of y = f(x) at the point x0 is
[tex] \lim_{h \rightarrow 0}\frac{f(x_{0} + h) - f(x_{0})}{h} = m[/tex]

And after this definition, it gives the example that I posted. I have the answer, just don't understand any of it :(
 
This can be done with some algebraic manipulation. Let your first term in the numerator be [tex]\frac{-2+h}{3h-4}[/tex] and get the second term of 1/2 into that same form so that you can take [tex]3h-4[/tex] under the denominator of the whole and go from there.
 
[tex]f(x)= \frac{x}{3x+ 2}[/tex]
so [tex]f(x_0+h)= \frac{x_0+h}{3(x_0+h)+ 2}= \frac{x_0+h}{3x_0+3h+2}[/tex]

[tex]f(x_0+h)- f(x_0)= \frac{x_0+h}{3(x_0+h)+ 2}= \frac{x_0+h}{3x_0+3h+2}- \frac{x}{3x+ 2}[/tex]

The "common denominator" is [itex](3x_0+ 2)(3x_0+ 3h+ 2)[/itex]. Multiplying numerator and denominator of the first fraction by [itex]3x_0+ 2[/itex] and the numerator and denominator of the second fraction by [itex]3x_0+ 3h+ 2[/itex],

[tex]\frac{(x_0+h)(3x_0+ 2)}{(3x_0+ 3h+ 2)(3x_0+ 2)}- \frac{(x_0)(3x_0+ 3h+ 2)}{(3x_0+ 3h+ 2)(3x_0+ 2)}[/tex]

Multiply out the products in the numerators. You can leave the denominators as they are:
[tex]\frac{3x_0^2+ 2x_0+ 3hx_0+ 2h}{(3x_0+ 3h+ 2)(3x_0+ 2)}- \frac{3x_0^2+ 3hx_0+ 2x_0}{(3x_0+ 3h+ 2)(3x_0+ 2)}[/tex]

Now you see that the "[itex]3x_0^2[/itex]", "[itex]3hx_0[/itex]", and "[itex]2x_0[/itex]" terms cancel leaving
[tex]\frac{2h}{(3x_0+ 3h+ 2)(3x_0+ 2)}[/tex]

That is [itex]f(x_0+ h)- f(x_0)[/itex]. To form the "difference quotient" divide by h:
[tex]\frac{f(x_0+ h)- f(x_0)}{h}= \frac{2h}{h(3x_0+ 3h+ 2)(3x_0+ 2)}= \frac{2}{(3x_0+ 3h+ 2)(3x_0+ 2)}[/tex].

Finally, take the limit as h goes to 0. Since setting h to 0 does not make the denominator 0, you can do that simply by setting h= 0.
 

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