How Do You Calculate the Tension in a Chandelier's Cable?

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The discussion focuses on calculating the tension in the cables supporting a chandelier in a concert hall, where two cables (Cable 1 and Cable 2) are attached at angles \(\theta_1\) and \(\theta_2\) to the ceiling. The key takeaway is that the vertical components of the tensions must equal the weight of the chandelier, while the horizontal components must balance each other. The correct approach involves setting up two separate equations for the horizontal and vertical forces, rather than combining them.

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Homework Statement



A chandelier with mass m is attached to the ceiling of a large concert hall by two cables. Because the ceiling is covered with intricate architectural decorations (not indicated in the figure, which uses a humbler depiction), the workers who hung the chandelier couldn't attach the cables to the ceiling directly above the chandelier. Instead, they attached the cables to the ceiling near the walls. Cable 1 has tension T1 and makes an angle of \theta1 with the ceiling. Cable 2 has tension T2 and makes an angle of \theta2 with the ceiling.

Find the forces in the x direction.

Find an expression for T1, the tension in cable 1, that does not depend on T2.

Homework Equations


FT = ma


The Attempt at a Solution


Would I be correct in saying that the total Ftx = mgsin\theta1+mgsin\theta2? If so, I would take that and add it to mgcos\theta1+mgcos\theta2 for the total.

P.S This is my first post so I apologize if anything is in the wrong place.
 
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Hi gb14, welcome to PF.

gb14 said:
Would I be correct in saying that the total Ftx = mgsin\theta1+mgsin\theta2?
No, you would not be correct. The sum of the vertical components of the two tensions must be equal to the weight of the chandelier. That's because there is no unbalanced force in the vertical direction and you need to say that with an equation.
If so, I would take that and add it to mgcos\theta1+mgcos\theta2 for the total.
Again, no. Forces are vectors and you cannot add the vertical components to the horizontal components in any meaningful way. You need to say that the two horizontal components of the tension are equal and opposite. That's because there is no unbalanced force in the horizontal direction either.

When you write the vector equation

\vec{F}_{net}=m \vec{a}

that's really two equations in one. One equation for the horizontal direction and a separate equation for the vertical direction.
 

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