How Do You Calculate Turns and Current in an Ideal Transformer?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the turns and current in an ideal transformer, specifically focusing on a 4.4kVA 440V/4400V step-up transformer. Participants are addressing various aspects of the problem, including the number of turns, cross-sectional area of the core, and full load currents in each winding, while also considering the implications of missing frequency information.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant calculates the primary turns as 44 and the secondary turns as 440 based on the induced emf per turn and the applied voltage.
  • Another participant expresses uncertainty about how to solve for the cross-sectional area of the core without a given frequency, suggesting that a frequency must be assumed.
  • There is a mention of two possible frequencies (50Hz or 60Hz) that could affect the accuracy of the calculations.
  • Participants discuss the lack of clarity in textbooks regarding the intended frequency for such problems.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that a frequency must be assumed for the calculations, but there is no consensus on which frequency is appropriate, leading to uncertainty about the accuracy of the results.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations due to the absence of frequency information, which is crucial for solving parts of the problem related to the transformer equations.

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This discussion may be useful for students and practitioners interested in electrical engineering, particularly those studying transformers and related calculations.

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Homework Statement



The Mag FLux Density in the core of a 4.4kVA 440V/4400V step up TX is 0.8T (rms). If the induced emf per turn is 10V, find: a) the primary and secondary turns, b) The cross sec area of the core, c) the full load current in each winding.

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part a isn't hard, as this question is in a chapter dealing with ideal transformers and so The total emf induced is the same as the applied voltage. The Number of primary turns can therefore be deduced by;

Total emf induced/emf per turn = 440/10 = 44 turns in primary,

this can then be done again for the secondary and the resulting value for number of secondary turn is 440.

For the third part, I believe that the primary current = VA/V1 = 4400VA /440V = 10A, anf the secondary current = VA/V2 = 4400VA / 4400V = 1A. This would make sense based on all the above calculations for turns etc.

I would like some help with the second part of the equation, as i cannot understand how it can be solved using the emf equations for a single phase transformer, as there is no frequency given??

Thanks
 
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Physicist3 said:

Homework Statement



The Mag FLux Density in the core of a 4.4kVA 440V/4400V step up TX is 0.8T (rms). If the induced emf per turn is 10V, find: a) the primary and secondary turns, b) The cross sec area of the core, c) the full load current in each winding.

Homework Equations






The Attempt at a Solution



part a isn't hard, as this question is in a chapter dealing with ideal transformers and so The total emf induced is the same as the applied voltage. The Number of primary turns can therefore be deduced by;

Total emf induced/emf per turn = 440/10 = 44 turns in primary,

this can then be done again for the secondary and the resulting value for number of secondary turn is 440.

For the third part, I believe that the primary current = VA/V1 = 4400VA /440V = 10A, anf the secondary current = VA/V2 = 4400VA / 4400V = 1A. This would make sense based on all the above calculations for turns etc.

I would like some help with the second part of the equation, as i cannot understand how it can be solved using the emf equations for a single phase transformer, as there is no frequency given??

Thanks

You have to assume a frequency. Probably 60 Hz. Good point!
 
rude man said:
You have to assume a frequency. Probably 60 Hz. Good point!

This is what I thought, but obviously there are two feasible frequencies that could be used (50Hz or 60Hz), so the accuracy of the answer will therefore be affected. I hate it when textbooks don't give answers to their questions!
 
Physicist3 said:
This is what I thought, but obviously there are two feasible frequencies that could be used (50Hz or 60Hz), so the accuracy of the answer will therefore be affected. I hate it when textbooks don't give answers to their questions!

Agreed! Where was your textbook published? That might offer a clue as to the intended frequency. What about context (the chapter associated with the problem)?
 

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