How Do You Convert a Density Operator to Matrix Form?

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The problem involves converting a density operator, expressed in terms of state vectors, into matrix form. The density operator is given as a combination of diagonal and off-diagonal elements, with specific coefficients associated with each state vector.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the identification of diagonal and off-diagonal elements in the matrix representation of the density operator. Questions arise regarding the inclusion of cross terms and their derivation from the relevant equations.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the nature of the states and how they relate to the matrix indices. There is acknowledgment of the confusion surrounding the off-diagonal terms and their origin, with some guidance offered on the expansion of states in terms of orthonormal bases.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of the states not being orthogonal and the implications this has for the representation of probabilities in the density operator. The original poster expresses uncertainty about the off-diagonal elements and seeks clarification on their derivation.

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Homework Statement



Write the density operator

$$\rho=\frac{1}{3}|u><u|+\frac{2}{3}|v><v|+\frac{\sqrt{2}}{3}(|u><v|+|v><u|, \quad where <u|v>=0$$

In matrix form

Homework Equations



$$\rho=\sum_i p_i |\psi><\psi|$$

The Attempt at a Solution


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The two first factors ##\frac{1}{3}|u><u|## and ##\frac{2}{3}|v><v|## pertain to the diagonal elements of the 2x2 matrix, I am unsure how to find the off diagonal elements for this matrix and the ##|u><v|## and ##|v><u|## I don't think are included in the sum I listed in the relevant equations.

In matrix form I have

$$\rho=
\left( \begin{array}{cc}
1 & ? \\
? & 2 \end{array} \right)$$

I have the suspicion that $$\frac{\sqrt{2}}{3}$$ is the offdiagonal elements, however, I don't want to put this down just off of my suspicion. Any tips, or things to think of for me would be appreciated.
 
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There is nothing deep to be appreciated here. Its just that u and v are somehow serving as the matrix indices. So uu and vv are the diagonal elements and uv and vu are the off-diagonal elements.
 
ShayanJ said:
There is nothing deep to be appreciated here. Its just that u and v are somehow serving as the matrix indices. So uu and vv are the diagonal elements and uv and vu are the off-diagonal elements.

Thank you, that is what I suspected. How do these cross terms arise from the equation

$$\rho=\sum_i p_i|\psi_i><\psi_i$$

It seems that these cross terms do not come from this summation as it is over only one index.
 
The states in that formula are not the base states. That definition is for when you want to assign classical probabilities for the system to be in different states that are not necessarily orthogonal. The off-diagonal terms arise when you expand those states in terms of orthonormal base states.
 
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ShayanJ said:
The states in that formula are not the base states. That definition is for when you want to assign classical probabilities for the system to be in different states that are not necessarily orthogonal. The off-diagonal terms arise when you expand those states in terms of orthonormal base states.

Thank you, that makes sense!
 

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