How Do You Convert Complex Numbers Between Cartesian and Polar Forms?

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The discussion revolves around converting complex numbers between Cartesian and polar forms, specifically examining the numbers P, Q, R, and S. Participants explore the relationships and transformations between these forms, utilizing Euler's formula and trigonometric identities.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants attempt to express complex numbers in both Cartesian and polar forms, questioning the correctness of their transformations and the implications of negative angles. Some express uncertainty about the conversion process and the interpretation of angles in different quadrants.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the conversions, with some participants providing calculations and others questioning their accuracy. Guidance is offered through references to Euler's identity and trigonometric relationships, but no consensus has been reached on the final forms of the numbers.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the use of 'j' as the imaginary unit, equivalent to 'i' in mathematics. There is also mention of potential confusion regarding the angle representations and the Cartesian versus polar forms of the complex numbers.

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Take,

[tex]P = 4e^{-j\frac{\pi}{3}}[/tex]

[tex]Q = 4-3j[/tex]

[tex]R = 2e^{j\frac{\pi}{2}}[/tex]

[tex]S = 5[/tex]

note: I'm using j to be a complex number, it's equivalent to i in mathematics

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A: express p q r s in both cartesian (a+ib) and polar (re^itheta) forms

B: sketch p q r and s on the complex plane

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I'm not too certain as to how P and R work,
I know from the taylor series that r(cos(theta)+isin(theta)) = re^itheta

P is already in polar form, [tex]P = 4e^{-j\frac{\pi}{3}}[/tex]
so the Cartesian form,
4(cos(pi/3)+j(sin(pi/3)))

(a+jb) = [tex]4 cos\frac{\pi}{3} = a[/tex] and [tex]4 sin \frac{\pi}{3} = b[/tex]

so it is 2+j(3.464) or [tex]2+j\sqrt{12}[/tex]
NOTE I AM NOT SURE, BECAUSE THE ORIGINAL EQUATION SHOWS -J
SO SHOULD I PUT, [tex]2-j\sqrt{12}[/tex] ??
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[tex]Q = 4-3j[/tex]
Q is already in cartesian form,

|z| q = 5, = root 4^2 + -(3^2)
[tex]\theta = cos^{-1} \frac{4}{5} = 0.643 rad[/tex]

so the polar form is , 5cis(0.643) = 5(cos(0.643) + jsin(0.643)) = 5e^(j0.643)

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[tex]R = 2e^{j\frac{pi}{2}}[/tex]
R is already in polar form,

2 = |z|

2 cos(pi/2) = 0,
2 sin(pi/2) = 2,
this means if i wear to imagine the vector R, it would be going straight up,

so in cartesian form, the equivalent equation of [tex]R = 2e^{j\frac{pi}{2}}[/tex] is j2

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S=5
I'm assuming S is already in cartesian form, since it is 5+j0

|z| =5
the angle it makes with the x axis, is 0,
so i think the equation for S in polar form is, [tex]5e^{j * 0 }[/tex]
 
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Determine numberical answers for each of the following:
either in cartesian form or in polar form with the angle in degrees

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1) (PQ)^1/2
2) (R/P)^1/3

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i hate macs,

I calculate pq to be,

[tex]20e^{-j(\frac{\pi}{3} - 0.643)}[/tex]

how do i square root it?

[tex]\sqrt{20e^{-j(\frac{\pi}{3} - 0.643)}}[/tex]
 
=>P is already in Exponential form. To convert to Cartesian:

Euler's Identity:
[PLAIN]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4645835/MATH/EulersID.gif

so:
[PLAIN]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4645835/MATH/Pcart.gif

=>Q is already in Cartesian; so convert to Polar:
[PLAIN]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4645835/MATH/Qpol.gif

=>Convert Q to Exponential:
[PLAIN]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4645835/MATH/Qexp.gif


I think these are right and I hope they help.
 
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vorcil said:
Take,

[tex]P = 4e^{-j\frac{\pi}{3}}[/tex]

[tex]Q = 4-3j[/tex]

[tex]R = 2e^{j\frac{\pi}{2}}[/tex]

[tex]S = 5[/tex]

note: I'm using j to be a complex number, it's equivalent to i in mathematics

-

A: express p q r s in both cartesian (a+ib) and polar (re^itheta) forms

B: sketch p q r and s on the complex plane

--------------------------------------------------------------
I'm not too certain as to how P and R work,
I know from the taylor series that r(cos(theta)+isin(theta)) = re^itheta

P is already in polar form, [tex]P = 4e^{-j\frac{\pi}{3}}[/tex]
so the Cartesian form,
4(cos(pi/3)+j(sin(pi/3)))
No, [itex]\theta= -\frac{\pi/3}[itex], not [itex]\frac{\pi}{3}[/itex].<br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="" data-source="" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> (a+jb) = [tex]4 cos\frac{\pi}{3} = a[/tex] and [tex]4 sin \frac{\pi}{3} = b[/tex]<br /> <br /> so it is 2+j(3.464) or [tex]2+j\sqrt{12}[/tex]<br /> NOTE I AM NOT SURE, BECAUSE THE ORIGINAL EQUATION SHOWS -J<br /> SO SHOULD I PUT, [tex]2-j\sqrt{12}[/tex] ??<br /> ----------------------------------------------------------------<br /> [tex]Q = 4-3j[/tex]<br /> Q is already in cartesian form, <br /> <br /> |z| q = 5, = root 4^2 + -(3^2) <br /> [tex]\theta = cos^{-1} \frac{4}{5} = 0.643 rad[/tex]<br /> <br /> so the polar form is , 5cis(0.643) = 5(cos(0.643) + jsin(0.643)) = 5e^(j0.643)<br /> <br /> ----------------------------------------------------------------<br /> [tex]R = 2e^{j\frac{pi}{2}}[/tex]<br /> R is already in polar form,<br /> <br /> 2 = |z| <br /> <br /> 2 cos(pi/2) = 0,<br /> 2 sin(pi/2) = 2,<br /> this means if i wear to imagine the vector R, it would be going straight up,<br /> <br /> so in cartesian form, the equivalent equation of [tex]R = 2e^{j\frac{pi}{2}}[/tex] is j2<br /> <br /> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /> S=5<br /> I'm assuming S is already in cartesian form, since it is 5+j0<br /> <br /> |z| =5 <br /> the angle it makes with the x axis, is 0,<br /> so i think the equation for S in polar form is, [tex]5e^{j * 0 }[/tex] </div> </div> </blockquote>[/itex][/itex]
 
It is possible for an expression to fit into more than one category or into none of the categories. I'm not sure how this works anymore..as I did this a long time ago. But I think S satisfies exponential and cartesian.
 

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