Finding the polar form of a complex number

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The discussion revolves around finding the polar form of a complex number, specifically addressing the calculations of the modulus and argument of the complex number -3 - 4j. Participants are examining the correct application of formulas and the interpretation of angle measures in radians versus degrees.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of the modulus using the formula r=sqrt(a^2+b^2) and the argument using tan(θ)=b/a. There are attempts to clarify the correct angle representation and the implications of using degrees instead of radians. Some participants question the accuracy of the initial calculations and the reasoning behind certain steps, such as the use of 300 degrees instead of 360 degrees.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on each other's calculations and questioning the assumptions made regarding angle measures. There is no explicit consensus yet, but references to the atan2 function and corrections to earlier mistakes indicate a productive exploration of the topic.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of adhering to the specified range for the argument of the complex number, -π

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Homework Statement



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Homework Equations


r=sqrt(a^2+b^2)
θ=arg(z)
tan(θ)=b/a

The Attempt at a Solution


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finding the polar form:
r=sqrt(-3^2+(-4)^2)=sqrt(7)
θ=arg(z)
tan(θ)=-4/-3 = 53.13 °
300-53.13=306.87°

-3-j4=sqrt(7)*(cos(306.87+j306.87)

I don't know if my answer is correct because it is given that -π<arg(z)<=π
 

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javii said:
tan(θ)=-4/-3 = 53.13 °
Is indeed the wrong answer. The second = sign makes no sense. You probably mean to say $$ \tan\theta = {-4\over -3}\ \ \Rightarrow \ \ \theta = 53.13^\circ$$but that is not correct. To satisfy
javii said:
-π<arg(z)<=π
and to not fold everything back to the range ##(-\pi/2 , \pi/2]## the atan2 function was 'invented'.
Your 300-53.13=306.87° (an alternative answer ?) doesn't satisfy "-π<arg(z)<=π, not even if converted to radians.

And to top it all up, ##3^2+4^2 \ne 7## !

So it's back to the drawing board, I'm afraid...:wideeyed:

Not much help (except the reference to atan2, perhaps), but with your drawing at hand I'm pretty confident you can manage on your own and that's much better.
 
BvU said:
tanθ=−4−3 ⇒ θ=53.13∘tan⁡θ=−4−3 ⇒ θ=53.13∘​
Yes, that was what I meant.

BvU said:
32+42≠732+42≠73^2+4^2 \ne 7 !
my bad its equal 25, meaning r = 5.

I will try to read about atan2, to be honest I didn't knew about it. Thank you
 
javii said:

Homework Statement



View attachment 114125

Homework Equations


r=sqrt(a^2+b^2)
θ=arg(z)
tan(θ)=b/a

The Attempt at a Solution


for a)[/B]
View attachment 114128
finding the polar form:
r=sqrt(-3^2+(-4)^2)=sqrt(7)
θ=arg(z)
tan(θ)=-4/-3 = 53.13 °
300-53.13=306.87°

-3-j4=sqrt(7)*(cos(306.87+j306.87)

I don't know if my answer is correct because it is given that -π<arg(z)<=π

(1) Why are you using degrees when the question expresses angles in radians?
(2) In your computation 300-53.13, where does the 300 come from?
 
Ray Vickson said:
(2) In your computation 300-53.13, where does the 300 come from?
Pretty clearly, it's a typo, where the OP typed 300, but meant 360.
javii said:
300-53.13=306.87°
 
Mark44 said:
Pretty clearly, it's a typo, where the OP typed 300, but meant 360.

OK, then: but where does the 360 come from?
 

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