How Do You Determine Ksp for Silver Sulfate?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on determining the solubility product constant (Ksp) for silver sulfate (Ag2SO4). Participants explore various experimental methods and analytical techniques that could be employed to find the concentrations of Ag+ and SO42- in a saturated solution, including titration and other methods.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that to determine Ksp, the concentrations of Ag+ and SO42- must be known.
  • Another participant questions whether the experiment design is required and asks about available analytical techniques.
  • Participants mention various techniques for determining concentration, including titrimetry, gravimetry, spectroscopy, and electrochemistry.
  • One participant expresses uncertainty about how heating silver sulfate relates to determining Ksp and seeks clarification on this method.
  • Another participant speculates that drying out the solution might be the intended method but questions its practicality due to the low concentration of silver in the solution.
  • There is a discussion about the appropriateness of using titration, with one participant stating that acid cannot be used for titration in this case due to the lack of a base to neutralize.
  • One participant proposes using an ion-selective electrode as a logical approach for measuring silver concentration.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the methods for determining Ksp, with no consensus on the best approach. Some suggest traditional methods like titration, while others propose more modern techniques like ion-selective electrodes. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific experimental design and the implications of heating silver sulfate.

Contextual Notes

Participants note limitations in the accuracy of methods due to the low concentration of silver in the solution and the potential challenges of evaporating sufficient solution for reliable measurements.

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Homework Statement


Ok, to determine ksp we need to know the concentratison of Ag+2 and SO4-2


Homework Equations


to find ksp for calcium hydroxide we used titration


The Attempt at a Solution


i was thinking about evaporting it
but I am not sure if I am right, help...
 
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Are you asked to desing the experiment? What analytical techniques are available to you?
 
i am able to use anything
 
What analytical techniques of determining concentration do you know?
 
i don't understand what you are trying to immpply
 
Nothing yet, so far I have just asked a question.

To determine Kso you have to find out concentration of Ag+ and/or SO42- in the saturated solution. There are numeorus techniques that can be used, starting with classic - titrimetry, gravimetry, ending with instrumental methods - like spectroscopy or electrochemistry. Which of those do you know?
 
Well for one experiment i did a titration lab to determine ksp, but for this lab my teacher was refeering to heating the silver sulfate... and I am not sure what he is trying to say, so that is basically what i am asking, how can you determine the ksp for silver sulfate by eheating it ?
 
No idea what he refers to, colud be that drying out is the idea - but IMHO it doesn't make sense. There is slighly below 1 mg of the solid per 1 mL of the solution, to get reasonable accuracy you will have to evaporated a lot of solution.
 
alright suppose you do titration , which acid can you use?and why
 
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You can't use acid for titration in this case. There is no base that can be neutralized. Titration is not only for acid/base determination. There are methods - Mohr, Fajans - that can be used for silver determination, however, I don't think they will work here - silver concentration is too low.
 
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In this case what method would you use...
 
  • #12
Ion selective electrode sounds the most logical approach.
 

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