How Do You Determine the Initial Velocity Vector Given Speed and Direction?

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around determining the initial velocity vector of a particle given its speed, direction, and acceleration. The particle starts at a specific point and travels in a straight line to another point, with a known speed and constant acceleration.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the integration of the acceleration vector to derive the position vector and express confusion about determining the initial velocity vector from the given speed. Questions are raised about the relationship between velocity and acceleration for a particle moving in a straight line.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively questioning the assumptions made regarding the initial velocity and its representation in the equations. Some guidance is offered regarding the relationship between speed and unit vectors, but no consensus has been reached on the correct interpretation of the equations presented.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted ambiguity regarding the notation used for the initial velocity, which has led to confusion among participants. The discussion also highlights the importance of distinguishing between vectors and scalars in the context of the equations being used.

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Homework Statement



At time t = 0, a particle is located at the point (1, 2, 3). It travels
in a straight line to the point (4, 1,4), has speed 2 at (1, 2, 3) and
constant acceleration 3i - j + k. Find an equation for the position
vector r(t) of the particle at time t.

Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution


If we integrate the acceleration vector twice, we get the position vector (along with some constants we must determine). Plugging in the initial position vector gives us

[tex]r(t) = <1.5t^{2},-.5t^{2},.5t^{2}> + v_{0}t + <1,2,3>[/tex]

The problem is I don't know how to find the initial velocity. That's all I need to complete the problem. I know the speed at time t=0, but not the velocity. I also know that the particle travels in a straight line, meaning its unit tangent vector is constant and that its motion is nonperiodic, but how does that help?

BiP
 
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Bipolarity said:

Homework Statement



At time t = 0, a particle is located at the point (1, 2, 3). It travels
in a straight line to the point (4, 1,4), has speed 2 at (1, 2, 3) and
constant acceleration 3i - j + k. Find an equation for the position
vector r(t) of the particle at time t.

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


If we integrate the acceleration vector twice, we get the position vector (along with some constants we must determine). Plugging in the initial position vector gives us

[tex]r(t) = <1.5t^{2},-.5t^{2},.5t^{2}> + v_{0}t + <1,2,3>[/tex]

The problem is I don't know how to find the initial velocity. That's all I need to complete the problem. I know the speed at time t=0, but not the velocity. I also know that the particle travels in a straight line, meaning its unit tangent vector is constant and that its motion is nonperiodic, but how does that help?

BiP

If a particle travels in a straight line, how are the velocity and acceleration vectors related?

RGV
 
Bipolarity said:

Homework Statement



At time t = 0, a particle is located at the point (1, 2, 3). It travels
in a straight line to the point (4, 1,4), has speed 2 at (1, 2, 3) and
constant acceleration 3i - j + k. Find an equation for the position
vector r(t) of the particle at time t.

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


If we integrate the acceleration vector twice, we get the position vector (along with some constants we must determine). Plugging in the initial position vector gives us

[tex]r(t) = <1.5t^{2},-.5t^{2},.5t^{2}> + v_{0}t + <1,2,3>[/tex]

The problem is I don't know how to find the initial velocity. That's all I need to complete the problem. I know the speed at time t=0, but not the velocity. I also know that the particle travels in a straight line, meaning its unit tangent vector is constant and that its motion is nonperiodic, but how does that help?

BiP

That equation doesn't make any sense because you can't add vectors and scalars. And remember you can always express a velocity vector as the speed times a unit vector in the correct direction.
 
LCKurtz said:
That equation doesn't make any sense because you can't add vectors and scalars. And remember you can always express a velocity vector as the speed times a unit vector in the correct direction.

Where in my equation did I add vectors with scalars? Every term in my equation is a position vector...

BiP
 
Bipolarity said:
the particle travels in a straight line, meaning its unit tangent vector is constant and that its motion is nonperiodic
If it travels in a straight line then its acceleration must always be collinear with the velocity.
 
Bipolarity said:
[tex]r(t) = <1.5t^{2},-.5t^{2},.5t^{2}> + v_{0}t + <1,2,3>[/tex]


BiP

LCKurtz said:
That equation doesn't make any sense because you can't add vectors and scalars. And remember you can always express a velocity vector as the speed times a unit vector in the correct direction.

Bipolarity said:
Where in my equation did I add vectors with scalars? Every term in my equation is a position vector...

BiP

Well, you mentioned that the initial speed was 2. Since there was no definition given for ##v_0## and it looks like a scalar, I assumed it was ##2##. And there is no notation to distinguish vectors from scalars, I assumed ##v_0 t## was a scalar.
 

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