How Do You Differentiate a Functional Like F(φ(x))?

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The discussion centers around the differentiation of a functional defined as F(φ(x)) in the context of variational calculus, particularly related to the Cahn-Hilliard equation. Participants explore the mathematical steps involved in deriving the expression for the derivative of the functional with respect to φ.

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  • One participant seeks clarification on the differentiation of the functional F and expresses confusion about the derivative given in the original expression.
  • Another participant offers to help by suggesting they could provide hints if a draft is shared.
  • A different participant questions the notation d^d x in the original expression, wondering if it is a typo, and proposes to ignore it for further analysis.
  • This participant introduces a variation of the function φ, denoted as φ_ε = φ + εψ, and discusses the need for boundary conditions to apply integration by parts.
  • The same participant derives an expression for the derivative with respect to ε, leading to an integral involving K^2 and V' (the derivative of V with respect to φ).
  • Another participant reiterates the approach of using variations and suggests employing Taylor expansion and regular differentiation rules to find the derivative.

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Participants generally agree on the approach of using variations to differentiate the functional, but there is no consensus on the interpretation of the notation or the specific steps involved in the differentiation process.

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There are assumptions regarding boundary conditions that are not fully detailed, and the notation used in the original expression may require clarification. The discussion does not resolve these uncertainties.

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differentiation of a functional

Where \phi = \phi(x) and the functional F=F(\phi(x)) = \int d^d x [\frac{1}{2}K^2(\bigtriangledown\phi)^2+ V (\phi)]

, the author says the derivative with respect to phi gives

\frac {\partial F} {\partial \phi(x)} = -K^2\bigtriangledown^2\phi + V'(\phi)

I'm not seeing this. Could anyone give me some tips for writing down the differentiation more explicitly? I'm trying to work it out by writing F(phi+ dphi) and subtracting F(phi) as detailed in http://julian.tau.ac.il/bqs/functionals/node1.html, but I can't seem to make it come out correctly. This is the chemical potential in the Cahn-Hilliard equation, if it's important.

Thanks in advance!
 
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ooh, that's a tough one, i feel like I'm close, do you have draft, maybe i could give a hint
 
First, of all, I don't understand the d^d x notation in the original expression. Does the superscript d mean something or is it a typo?

Lets ignore that superscript and see what we can find. Let \phi_{\epsilon}=\phi + \epsilon \psi be a variation of the function, and take the limit as epsilon goes to 0. I am going to assume that there is some kind of Dirichlet condition on the boundary of the domain of this variational problem. We are going to need it to do integration by parts.

Let D be the name of the domain and \Gamma its boundary.

\int_D (1/2)K^2 |\nabla \phi_{\epsilon}|^2+V(\phi_{\epsilon}) \, dx

Taking the derivative with respect to epsilon and setting epsilon=0, we get

\int_D K^2 \nabla \phi \cdot \nabla \psi + V'(\phi)\psi \, dx

For the first term use integration by parts, and you end up with

\int_D \left(-K^2 \nabla^2\phi+V'(\phi)\right)\psi\, dx

If you are not familiar with that version of integration by parts it is equivalent to the divergence theorem:

\int_D \text{div}\, (\psi \nabla \phi)\, dx = \int_{\Gamma} (\psi \nabla \phi)\cdot \vec{n}\, d\sigma

The right side is zero because of the Dirichlet condition on phi which forces psi to be zero on the boundary. Use the product rule to expand the left side and you have your integration by parts formula.
 
Going back to your original question, I would suggest doing variations like this:

\phi+\epsilon\psi

epsilon is a real variable, so you can use the regular rules of differentiation, Taylor expansion, w/e. In particular, you can calculate the derivative w.r.t. epsilon and set epsilon =0. That gives you the variation in the direction of psi.
 
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